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mp_en_viaje: in this as in all other things, 2nd order effects and indirect results well overthelm the direct.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
mp_en_viaje: oh, and to spell out that other thing : re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947023 your principal gain is that when you go to sit down with laywers later, and you tell them what happened and what you did so far, on that basis your odds of being taken for a rube drop from the usual 80% ot well under 1%
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mp_en_viaje: that's the budget available ; balance that out with whatever it's costing you, and there you go. women do it because, generally, it costs them a negative. you do it when your subjectively expected lifetime value comes under a quadrillionth of two cents.
mp_en_viaje: that's the average value of fatherhood, in the grand scheme of things : the kWh retails for a coupla cents, meaning your contribution's roughly whatever you get once you're done dividing two cents to seventeen zeroes.
mp_en_viaje: the average energy of such a proton is well measured, they peak around 0.3 GeV, which is to say ~5e−11 J, or in more everyday terms 0.0000000000000000139 kWh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:41:30 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile if you aim to simply dissolve back into the background radiation, by all means, latch on to one -- doesn't even matter which, anyways, the workings of the genetics involved are too complicated for whatever analysis you could come up with -- and there you go, [http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/?b=cine%20se%20casatoreste&e=mici#select][done
mp_en_viaje: to put it in the plainest terms : your deciding to be a father, and a proton's hitting earth are very comparable in terms of productivity. they'll do about as much, one as the other, just like "deciding" to be a beautician and "choosing" a career in waitressing will result in very comparable yearly tax returns.
mp_en_viaje: (we're not counting truly powerful things like viruses and such here because, well... how the fuck are you gonna compete with that. they invented the fucking mitochondrion for crying out loud, what the fuck have you done.)
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947048 << to likbez this matter : in terms of the human herd's diversity, variety, marginal furtherance of the exploration of the available genetic space, interestingness, quality, however you'd call it -- the marginal quantum produced by the average father is about the same (really, slighty under) the marginal quantum produced by the average wayward proton.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:52:31 BingoBoingo: The seccional covering the most most populated Barrio of the city at midnight on a Saturday... Was quiet
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947027 << you see the things you learn, once you start working the street ? getting out of the house's a winning move, for srs.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 21:34:10 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-19#1946971 << the figure of 1-300k came from you. you're mentally ill.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947016 << man, transforming what alf says back into what he's talking about is serious arcana, what the hell, his output is only english in the sense | base64 is plaintext.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 21:52:09 BingoBoingo: Aite, I picked up a cheap (US like price) printer as the hours for the hire a printer shops have passed. Doing another round of proofreading and sanity checking, then printing, then off to the prefectura.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947020 << you know, i just went hands in pockets. you really don't need the papering of police at this stage in any strict sense. i suppose it saves on handwriting.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 21:58:46 BingoBoingo: Shoebox size HP laser thing. 125 with a ream of paper. I hoped to never need to own a printer again, but I also don't want to lose the legal race for being too cheap to get a damned printer.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:35:52 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: currently asciilifeform suspects that BingoBoingo's 'mp simulator' is better than asciilifeform's; if it were used moar, we'd have better results. mine still needs work.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:35:03 BingoBoingo: One thing I have learned this week is that when I let my inner MP simulator handle heathen interactions instead of the Rube that is myself, things tend to work better.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:29:36 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, everyone there talks like faggots.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946993 << bwahahaha. its true, too.
mp_en_viaje: but, suffice it to say there's a very good reason i picked nicole up naked at the airport in a country she never heard of before, and that reason ain't my jollies. not that it hurts the jollying any, but i'm way too modest and wary of vainglory to make my enjoyment the center of policy.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile if you aim to simply dissolve back into the background radiation, by all means, latch on to one -- doesn't even matter which, anyways, the workings of the genetics involved are too complicated for whatever analysis you could come up with -- and there you go, done.
mp_en_viaje: dude tryna build things entourage-ing self with mommies is dumber than the faggots, no doubt about it.
mp_en_viaje: following the logic, if what you're trying to do is build something, a mommy's about as useful to you as a dude. think it through, you can fuck the dude in the ass just as well as her -- better, allegedly, though i've never tried the fags do claim once you go boybutt you don't go back. and just as allegedly it's a lot more fun to suck dick than clit -- which incidentally i can well see, theoretically, there's more to it if nothi
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:25:51 BingoBoingo: mod6: Staying or not staying is still up in the air.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946982 << you know, as a general point and not necessarily presented as a consideration here -- uprooting her life is the pons asinorum for whoredom in females. if she's not willing to leave everything behind and follow, naked to the ends of the world, she's a mommy not a whore.
mp_en_viaje: lawyer's skilled labour, like the barber or the gardner. you don't pay the gardner 1 night/month with your wife in exchange for the roses he gave you to give her on your first date ; you don't pay the barber one in twelve chicks you pick up in bars with his haircut, what the fuck. fair rate for fair labour and that's that -- and if it's not worth paying, guess what ? it's also not worth doing.
mp_en_viaje: it;s like hiring a plastic surgeon to fill up your tits and promise to pay him a % of all the money you realise sucking cock thenceforth. no prostitute, however slow, is dumb enough for that deal, it takes a male to do something quite as dumb.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:25:35 BingoBoingo: I have my doubts the case will be taken on a strictly contingency basis, but as continued communications from latecho have further opened their breaches.. it may be possible to get a lawyer who wants to do this on contingency.
mp_en_viaje: ds&e=man#select][paycheck cashing]/advancing "business", the lottery scratch ticket, and etcetera.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946981 << if by contingency basis you mean, lawyer makes his end out of whatever settlement / judgement he manages, this is not what you ever want. i am aware personal injury cases in the us notoriously work in this manner -- but this is because the object of personal injury cases is the same moron that's also the object of the [http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/?b=bail%20bon
mp_en_viaje: he just wants everyhing to be well, which, other than not ever working in practice is a great idea in theory.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:21:55 asciilifeform: mod6: the very idea of continuing to sell coin from piz piggy in order ton pay extortion to a scam latech, is batshit beyond contemplation. if BingoBoingo bungles lawsuit and we gotta evacuate him so he aint sold for organs -- then evacuate. but wtf already, nomoar to latech, can this q be settled definitively 1ce and for all time ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946970 << yes, yes, it's settled, it's settled. mod6 is just doing his trademark wanna-be friends to all things, running in all directions at once sorta deal.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:20:58 mod6: Here's what you should do, perhaps beforehand; pay back the debt holders. Pay S.NSA, pay the foundation; any others.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946968 << for some reason i thought the foundation had equity.
mp_en_viaje: you just don' throw that kinda thing away.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:12:39 BingoBoingo: No lawyer that bit yesterday's pitch wants any money for the initial sit down to talk about the case. The water here is rich with blood the doesn't taste like mine.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946955 << this is actually pretty neat. talk to all of them, it's basically free business training for you, worth 1-2 months of us "college education" per sit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947023 - good to hear that!
BingoBoingo: The seccional covering the most most populated Barrio of the city at midnight on a Saturday... Was quiet
BingoBoingo: And, most surpring of all coming from the US... The police were polite.
BingoBoingo: The whole thing took 30 or 40 minutes even with the officer's pained typing. Local police roll their IT on Ubuntu...
BingoBoingo: No waiting in line. My report was taken with gravity. Another sectionnal will be covering the investigation because I went to the one that covers my domicile rather than the scene of the crime.
BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
BingoBoingo: Shoebox size HP laser thing. 125 with a ream of paper. I hoped to never need to own a printer again, but I also don't want to lose the legal race for being too cheap to get a damned printer.
BingoBoingo: Aite, I picked up a cheap (US like price) printer as the hours for the hire a printer shops have passed. Doing another round of proofreading and sanity checking, then printing, then off to the prefectura.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 14:27:33 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946817 << if trinque thinks can produce useful ic of whatever variety for <=100k, oughta do it himself and make fabulous dough , and put entire current set of practitioners outta biz.
a111: Logged on 2019-10-19 17:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946817 << if trinque thinks can produce useful ic of whatever variety for <=100k, oughta do it himself and make fabulous dough , and put entire current set of practitioners outta biz.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-19#1946971 << the figure of 1-300k came from you. you're mentally ill. ☝︎
mod6: BingoBoingo: if I think of any other questions or clairification points, I'll ask.
asciilifeform on that note, must genuinely bbl, megatonne of loose ends to tie.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: currently asciilifeform suspects that BingoBoingo's 'mp simulator' is better than asciilifeform's; if it were used moar, we'd have better results. mine still needs work.
mod6: Keep with it then.
BingoBoingo: One thing I have learned this week is that when I let my inner MP simulator handle heathen interactions instead of the Rube that is myself, things tend to work better.
mod6: Gents I need to run for a bit here. But should be around tomorrow and so following.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Anyways, if there is anything clean up related you are not up to speed on please let me know. I know the logs do build up fast. I will try my best to offer you relevant lines.
mod6: Like I said, was horribly ill this week, a bit behind still.
asciilifeform: mod6: also ok ; and if you want to pause until price sheet posted an' approved by mp_en_viaje , also ok.
mod6: asciilifeform: re: foundation box to your new rack; yes. Thank you, I'll get that info together in the next two days and get back to you. That ok?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:18:56 mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: am i parsing this incorrectly ? << Just weighing all of the possible outcomes here, really. That's all.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, everyone there talks like faggots.
mod6: alright then.
BingoBoingo: mod6: In the absolute worse case I can hike to Argentina while developing further evacuation plans. This absolute worst case is very unlikely.
mod6: BingoBoingo: is that what you're ok with?
asciilifeform: mod6: the prev. agreed-upon solution to 'savages come after BingoBoingo' is evacuation. not 'burn whole piggy'. (if he ends up besieged by pygmies, no amt of piggy will necessarily suffice)
BingoBoingo: mod6: ty
mod6: That sound ok to you asciilifeform, BingoBoingo ?
mod6: So, look. Just proceed as you are. Find out what the options look like. We'll go from there.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Staying or not staying is still up in the air.
BingoBoingo: I have my doubts the case will be taken on a strictly contingency basis, but as continued communications from latecho have further opened their breaches.. it may be possible to get a lawyer who wants to do this on contingency.
mod6: I'm not going to hang him out to dry, especially since it seems like he wants to say there.
mod6: asciilifeform: I do not want to pay them any more money, no. At the same time, I don't want BingoBoingo ending up in some sort of personal litigation down there, if they come after him personally.
BingoBoingo: mod6: I'd like to get a plan of action up soon with a timeline. As a Roman law country this is a much clearer case than it would be in US court. I do however want estimates from the vampires I am assembling before doing anything definitive.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:18:56 mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?
mod6: We did settle this. Why are you saying I'm holding you back?
asciilifeform: from prev. thread w/ mod6 , i thought ~this~, if nuffin else, is settled matter 100%.
asciilifeform: * to pay
asciilifeform: mod6: the very idea of continuing to sell coin from piz piggy in order ton pay extortion to a scam latech, is batshit beyond contemplation. if BingoBoingo bungles lawsuit and we gotta evacuate him so he aint sold for organs -- then evacuate. but wtf already, nomoar to latech, can this q be settled definitively 1ce and for all time ?
mod6: Or at least subtract it from the cash total we're sitting upon. Then we'll also have a better idea of what we're working with in case this thing goes to #2.
mod6: Here's what you should do, perhaps beforehand; pay back the debt holders. Pay S.NSA, pay the foundation; any others.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 15:22:33 mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 not yet spoken, but asciilifeform 100% opposes any further movement of any kinda moneys ~into~ latech from piggy , on any pretext whatsoever. << Yeah, no more money for them.
asciilifeform: i thought mod6 already agreed re 'nomoar, basta'
mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?
BingoBoingo: mod6: Please read http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=JCaO which is the outcomes I am telling the lawyers I want.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Paying the datacenter more money when they are in flagrant breach of contract is immoral, even with my scrotum stitched to broken as hell contract, I am ruling it out.
mod6: Maybe we can get them to the table and we can negociate something better for us. I guess, worst case, pizarro ends up paying the remaining money.
mod6: Well, talk to each, take notes, let us know how it goes with each. Get their billing rates.
BingoBoingo: This is so because Maximiliano, the sale manager who Latecho has handling communications with me is a walking disaster for them.
BingoBoingo: The case as it is, as it has been pitched to them appears very clean under the local laws.
mod6: And if we can get, apparently 3, different lawyers to look at our case (are we interviewing them for free, or is there a retainer for each? if so, how much?). please write down what they say, if they think we have a good case, etc.
BingoBoingo: No lawyer that bit yesterday's pitch wants any money for the initial sit down to talk about the case. The water here is rich with blood the doesn't taste like mine.
mod6: I'd like to see pizarro save some money on the total $11,340 that would normally owe through the end of the contract, since yea, from what I've read in here, seems like they've screwed us over.
BingoBoingo: Their only defenses to collect on the remainder of the contract are active ones that don't apply with the bad faith they have demonstrated.
BingoBoingo: By my accounting payment made for october is a floor on the damages to pursue.