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dub: mircea_popescu: the word pride has been universally aquired by the GLBT community
jurov: basically, they will put all of us out of business ;)
mircea_popescu: <dub> I assume its some kind of bitcoin for homosexuals thing lmao
ThickAsThieves: what will they do with the IPO coins?
Ukto: .. you knocking the rainbows and unicorns? :P
dub: I assume its some kind of bitcoin for homosexuals thing
Bugpowder_: oh my... S.MPOE on a tear again
gribble: There are currently 13672.915 bitcoins offered at or under 31.92 USD, worth 425740.422215 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 8486.0226 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 249122.523027 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 6502.7346 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 199960.733222 USD in total.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.36501, Best ask: 30.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02499, Last trade: 30.36501, 24 hour volume: 29335.04571180, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39000, 24 hour vwap: 29.95731
Bugpowder_: seems unlikely given the amount in the wallet in Nov
Bugpowder_: does that take into account cold storage?
thestringpuller: it could be someone collecting over time
jurov: and were there so many calls sold?
ThickAsThieves: is that somehting goog can easily fix?
thestringpuller: That's been said to me before by a very smart person.
Bugpowder: I don't know how to control the bots. Sometimes I think they react to large bid or ask walls, but I could be just inferring signal from noise.
thestringpuller: Is that the only way to keep the bots from making a bubble?
Bugpowder: I'm sure MP will put a new ceiling with another share block for sale within a month or two.
Bugpowder: Looks like a big investor made a big buy, and then the bots took over.
thestringpuller: jurov: it looks like more money has gone into MPEX than has gone out
jurov: this mpoe rally is... a bit unnerving. Is there any of the investors?
Cylta: okay, thanks
deadweasel: Cylte try #bitcoin-mining
deadweasel: In the past couple of years, however, anonymous online sites such as .Silk Road. have launched and made illicit drugs widely accessible to students who choose not to buy on campus
deadweasel: student papaer talks about SR
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.20000, Best ask: 30.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 30.29999, 24 hour volume: 30135.68044112, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.94700
jurov: ^^ MPBPT announced its bonds, let trolls descend
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.17693, Best ask: 30.23121, Bid-ask spread: 0.05428, Last trade: 30.23121, 24 hour volume: 30722.27582138, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.94332
mjr_: i like the simplicity of mpex
jurov: but evoor... neither here nor there
jurov: so that wouldn't be so big surprise if another mpoe wall arises
mjr_: i think bitfunder is starting to look pretty attractive, though I think mpex still has the best stocks
mjr_: anyway, i hope we get more shares, i'm just curious as to how that would work...if he puts them out higher than last tranche
ThickAsThieves: while i see great long term value in mpoe, i honestly don;t understand the level of value it's at
mjr_: but i talked to him friday
mjr_: he was traveling i think
mjr_: ie. there may be more shares being put on the market?
mjr_: oh, what are the plans now?
jurov: mjr_ i mean evoorhees changing the plans every day
jurov: so either it's someone who sold s.dice or wanted to buy and decided against it when he saw the mess
mjr_: you can make money in options, but the premiums you pay are usually pretty high
mjr_: eh, hard to see a scenario where mpoe loses a signifigant amount of money
jurov: ThickAsThieves we know for certain it's someone who had the money on mpex for a long time already
ThickAsThieves: can't it just be someone who wanted to control the market of the most frequently traded asset?
jurov: thestringpuller so do you want the data so badly or not?
jurov: no i think that didn't happen... s.mpoe value seems pretty independent of dividends
thestringpuller: if mpoe loses money the valie of mpex decreases
jurov: seems actually more sensible to me.. they divesifying a portfolio
jurov: i have another conspiration theory: these evoorhees investors that sold s.dice decided to go long in s.mpoe
mjr_: so i get these for dividends, and i just hold them
mjr_: i know that mpoe makes money, cuz i see the spreads on options and i see the shares being bought and sold
jurov: if that wasn't from mpoe, then we'd clearly see options volume way above reported by mpoe
mjr_: i know that S.DICE makes money, cuz i see the blockchain
jurov: i don't understand,too. if that money was from mpoe, it would show as mpoe loss
mjr_: and i am fine with that...if you don't really believe in your position, get out when the price moves "for no reason"
mjr_: and if you don't think that these markets, including mt. gox aren't manipulated constantly, then you haven't been watching
mjr_: i don't buy them to lose money...
jurov: it's all trades,including options
jurov: and kako actually has them from me
jurov: if you weren't ignoring all my offers, you'd knew i have data, too
thestringpuller: i want to prove this but only kako is willing to sell me long term trade data
thestringpuller: then throughout it slowly gets filtered and sold back to mpoe
thestringpuller: at the beginning of every month someone enters a postion with like some 1000 btc in contracts
thestringpuller: someone with a lot more money than mircea is using mpoe to make made profit
thestringpuller: im almost certain the btc that just went into s.mpoe came from exiting a winning position
jurov: but can you point to exact trades you have an issue with?
jurov: thestringpuller, in broad sense, this is well possible without any gray entity, with mkfut/split/whatever
thestringpuller: so both the shadow man and the bot make money
thestringpuller: someone is taking contracts from the bot and creating two winning positions
jurov: i expected this to happen... but earlier
mjr_: i have given up trying to make sense of other people, i in fact have stopped caring what price these stocks trade at, i just want dividends each month lol
mjr_: what i don't understand is why people would raise the price the day after dividends
mjr_: it makes the market in most options
mjr_: and yes, i think the bot is called MPOE
thestringpuller: mjr_: someone is controlling the options market
mjr_: shorter month...and that one guy hit very nicely...but still overall not a big hit, i kinda hope it spurs on more gambling now that people see how much money you can make
mjr_: looking forward to earnings for S.DICE...i kinda expect a small gain over last month...but not sure
mjr_: i think it's awesome, i thought that they would price the future value of dividends into the stock price
mjr_: most backward prices ever...mpoe and sdice are both get cheaper the closer to dividends they get
pigeons: i know, just dont give me money, i hate having to keep track of it
mjr_: they were like, no way i will buy the day before i get money, too much work, let's buy after
mjr_: do people try to avoid the accounting headache of dividends?
thestringpuller: money to mpoe
gribble: There are currently 817.7338 bitcoins offered at or under 30.39877 USD, worth 24827.8732594 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 3969.8947 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.20123 USD, worth 117518.199016 USD in total.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.29801, Best ask: 30.29902, Bid-ask spread: 0.00101, Last trade: 30.29800, 24 hour volume: 30648.18333089, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.93325
thestringpuller: he'll def get to it I think, I'm also trying to purchase something through kakobrekla too
thestringpuller: He'll have like 2 weeks of chat logs to catch up on.
thestringpuller: Ukto: The community is the Bitcoin profit
deadweasel: bad copy thorugh ssh, pardon
Ukto: the more the community supports bitcoin, the more profits it makes. ;)
Ukto: I can tell you their dec. and jan. profits were 2x what ziggap was
Ukto: he wants to launch his early bird asap in surprise fashion as well... so be warned. anyone
Ukto: it has good profits too
Ukto: curious to see how this one sells
Ukto: working to put up another asset
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.08134, Best ask: 30.23999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15865, Last trade: 30.24636, 24 hour volume: 32160.41669674, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.91529
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4299621.26616 based on data since last change | 4269774.15066 based on data for last three days