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chmod755: jcpham, yeah, but nobody realized that we all died and the world ended
jcpham: that's the year the mayans came
jcpham: otherwise they are dead
jcpham: they need to release a client that allows gpou miners to get paid
jcpham: you lose money mining and their pool hashrate is literally nothing
Bugpowder: that would be a great nugget for the reddit discorse.
dub: I like how the glbse logo
jcpham: even with their bonus PPS
jcpham: now it's no longer even profitable to mine there
kakobrekla: wasnt that 2012
jcpham: when the block reward halved, we gamed their PPS until it was unprofitable
jcpham: "I suspect that coinlab has burnt thru most of their funding without having launched any products, and are now desperately trying to get some press for another funding round before they go under."
jcpham: if coinlab doesn't roll out a hpc client, they fail
chmod755: Bugpowder, oic, i thought it's just 40m
gribble: You know the answer better than I.
chmod755: ;;eightball will the price close at 42 this month?
thestringpuller: the price will close at 42 this month
chmod755: mt.gox is still tiny
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.31365, Best ask: 31.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09635, Last trade: 31.42000, 24 hour volume: 28018.45963541, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.42000, 24 hour vwap: 31.12569
Bugpowder: Bitcoin-assets consensus take : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19boiu/coinlab_bringing_bitcoin_to_wall_street_with/c8mmwbl
chmod755: i'm waiting for mark to say something on the subject before commenting
gribble: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
gribble: New crowdfunding platforms let you sell stock in yourself | The Verge
Chaang-Noi: just what i needed to wake up, thanks gribble
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.30000, Best ask: 31.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 31.38999, 24 hour volume: 28119.55661008, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.40000, 24 hour vwap: 31.12346
mod6: This is a good thing though, because if these guys get wholly onboard, bye-bye fake-economy job, hello bitcoin land!
mod6: I should have just started a live auction for 'em. Maybe next time.
mod6: I brought 3 .1 BTC paper wallets with me to pass around, so that gave them something to hold and concider while the discussion was going on... after I left I wanted to kick myself.
thestringpuller: more money is about to go into the economy heh
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.29001, Best ask: 31.38899, Bid-ask spread: 0.09898, Last trade: 31.38751, 24 hour volume: 29714.39995236, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.39000, 24 hour vwap: 31.12173
mod6: im sure if they could get something like that going so that people could play their slots from their couch as opposed to driving 40 miles to the casino they'd be happy.
mod6: they're getting less and less business from what I understand,.. the money is drying up quite a bit so gaming has been light
mod6: right now when you go into the casino, you can put cash onto your players card -- and when you walk up to a machine you just put your card in.
mod6: I think they'd be better off funding some iPad-bitcoin-slotmachines
mod6: i explained the BFL and avalon stuff to them. I think they're pretty sweet on mining. But the online-poker site is something they'd like to see get built. they own a full legal casino here, so I'm trying to get them to see how this would be awesome for gaming, mainly.
mod6: but he said he's gonna contact them etc to see what he can find out lol
mod6: one of the dudes over there has been blowing me up for a few weeks about these avalons.. he wants to buy a few to start to do some mining.. and that turned into a lengthy discussion.
kakobrekla: Jay Walker, a forex prop trader, said he’d jump to any forex broker deal that would allow him to do currency pair trades and get paid out in bitcoins. This is something the Bitcoin exchanges could do by signing deals with forex broker deals – assuming they get through each country’s regulatory process.
mod6: then they start to see....
mod6: my whole thing is, "if you think that platnium is $1tn because they need it to hypothicate some new money, what does that say about the price of gold, silver or bitcoin?"
mod6: there was even talk about the Trillion Dollar Coin for like 20 minutes lol
mod6: haha, the discussion was HEATED at first... "WHAT IS IT BACKED BY???!!!11" that kinda thing.
mod6: but after talking about this for like 3 or 4 hours... they started to understand btc a bit more and what its important
mod6: haha. not exactly. but at first the guys who are long paper had some FEAR that they're paper is going to 0. and rightly so....
ThickAsThieves: so are they all converted?
mod6: very lengthy and lively discussion on all things money/econ/bitcoin
mod6: yeah, so that ended up going pretty well lastnight.
pigeons: i declare today ridiculous idea link day in honor of coinlab
Bugpowder: Never match your hat pattern to your shirt pattern
Bugpowder: So that shows they have some money but no focus. They are likely a zero.
Bugpowder: Also this story mentions several possible business plans, none of which are related to the current story http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/24/coinlab-attracts-500000-in-venture-capital-for-bitcoin-projects/
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4406669.35421 based on data since last change | 4323557.47279 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: too "where's my mai tai" looking
Bugpowder: They look dumb in the face
mircea_popescu: at any rate they're running out of money this year, so... meh.
mircea_popescu: they'll be the next large hack
mircea_popescu: but on the negative side, if coinbase tech competence is anything like their pr ability,
Bugpowder: looks like VC-style hype trying to create an illusion of success, hopefully leading to actual success.
mircea_popescu: prolly what happened is they finally got told to take a hike, and are trying to extrac whatever from it
mircea_popescu: if it were you wouldn't be pissing the op off with statements of the kind
mircea_popescu: anyway, the way i read it a deal is not even close.
Bugpowder: you may have enough bitcoins to make it happen
mircea_popescu: i've been working for twelve years to fuck tea leoni.
Bugpowder: "has worked for a year to sign an exclusive long term deal"
mircea_popescu: other than remarkably incompetent trade mag and remarkably incompetent coinlab pr person.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you ever heard of something like this released other than as a joint item ?
Bugpowder: " The goal is to move customers’ money from overseas to Silicon Valley Bank by March 22nd." Like by starting a new way to deposit and stealing the future international wire action, or actually pulling all the existing deposits from Japan/HK to a US bank. Anyone have an interview transcript?
gigavps: guess they found out that HPC work with integer maffs isn't profitable
mircea_popescu: the fact that unlike the competition they have a burn rate is NOT an advantage.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder my point is more alongthe lines, there's about five or six of other corps doing what they do.
Bugpowder: Are they? Or are they just leaking some hype to a reporter with no actual deal
gigavps: Bugpowder they are going to be mtgox's us broker essentially
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the later.
Bugpowder: Any thoughts on the coinlab story? It's not clear from the wording that they actually ARE buying / HAVE BOUGHT mtgox's US book or they are just TRYING to buy the book and have achieved absolutely nothing.
mircea_popescu: after all, any tech liquidity event is geeks selling out to business people.
mircea_popescu: course possibly a workable model would show people buying that know business, people with large stashes that just happened by at the right time
gribble: There are currently 22183.421 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 705987.683892 USD in total.
Bugpowder: you can't argue that and also argue that the rise is not driven by the reddit/coinbase crowd
mircea_popescu: that's the furthest they can think ahead ?
mircea_popescu: do you suppose we can say that since everyone involved lives paycheck to paycheck
mircea_popescu: nobody plans further than hm
mircea_popescu: i think what happens is that 1 month = furthest future point in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: what they got now, two weeks or so ?
mircea_popescu: i'd guess whoever implemented it did it more for show than for banking.
topace: hmm k. yea, im already doing some basic sanity checks before the call
mircea_popescu: (limit the size message that goes in for instance)
mircea_popescu: and since we're on the topic, i dunno how well it was tested, if you use it you'd prolly be well advised to protect it from buffer overflows etc
mircea_popescu: topace nope. i've never used the php library
topace: okay and you're 100% positive that is enough to confirm a signature validity?
mircea_popescu: if returned_fingerprint == expected fingerprint then valid
topace: mircea_popescu: right, so, if strlen(fingerprint)>15 then its a valid signature? sounds sloppy
topace: jurov: they come from the array that gnupg_verify() returns
mircea_popescu: topace so then fingerprint is NOT always returned
jurov: where do the calues come from
jurov: looks like you'll have too use the sauce
topace: so fingerprint is always returned, but its the key id instead of the fingerprint if the signature is invalid
mircea_popescu: iirc the way to use that function is set checksig to false and then see if it returns the fingerprint
topace: i can't just assume that anything >0 is valid.... i need to be sure i know what it means
topace: mircea_popescu: any idea what "validity" values are, in reference to a gpg signature verification? when i use php's gnupg_verify() i get either validity=4 (for valid signature) or validity=0 (for invalid signature)
pigeons: where is that email form