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splnkr: so the testing's lateness is going in parallel
splnkr: and we at this poing should expect delays at every point
ThickAsThieves: if they planned and managed the project properly
splnkr: i think that was a good idea, to 'kill' that wafer for testing given lateeness, cause that testing through which the killed wafer is going is the next step of the pipeline
ThickAsThieves: they didnt have to ever be late
ThickAsThieves: the lateness was their own fault though
BingoBongo: provided they did get chips into "bumping"
splnkr: they did it cause of the lateness of everything else
BingoBongo: BFL also sent chips to get bumped without a goddam map.
BingoBongo: BFL "killed" a wafer to test their layout.
BingoBongo: BFL and Avalon both look insufficiently competent to do what they do.
ThickAsThieves: even the product design of BFL is considered
BingoBongo: Micon's problem is he revealed his scammer intuition on BFL, but he played the Queen's gambit and is falling apart now that Black took his bishop's pawn.
ThickAsThieves: and appears more trustable
BingoBongo: I've bet against BFL, but BFL can probably stay at the edge of shipping another 9 months and still keep some trust. The problem is that Josh is just a better troll than Micon.
ThickAsThieves: mp, i dont think great design is required for utility, but it is a part of salesmanship and interactivity
ThickAsThieves: no such thing as bad publicity some say
ThickAsThieves: with those youtube vids and shit
BingoBongo: Seals big problem now seems to be Micon can't take a little bit of retliatory trolling from BFL and his gamlbing instincts are betraying his lack of marketing instincts
ThickAsThieves: it's makeup though
ThickAsThieves: if they just spent a few grand on some hot design
mircea_popescu: so someone should make a poker site then
ThickAsThieves: its totally unappealling to even consider reading their offerings
BingoBongo: 2. Die way too slowly undercutting the competition
BingoBongo: The Vistaprint model seems to be:
ThickAsThieves: although i still broker printing thru my biz for way more than vistraprint charges
ThickAsThieves: vistaprint really did fuck everyone in that sense
BingoBongo: A Bitstaprint might take, but the margins might suck.
ThickAsThieves: forgive me if that was a random reference
ThickAsThieves: i assume vistaprint.com is wellknown in the world
ThickAsThieves: you think a bitstaprint.com would take?
BingoBongo: I'm not sure I haven't seen any online poker that doesn't look like a shit show.
ThickAsThieves: bitbet poker then?
ThickAsThieves: sealswithclubs is a trainwreck website
kakobrekla: hey dude why there is no beer in this beer
ThickAsThieves: "hey man why is there weed in your beer"
ThickAsThieves: put it in the fridge then
kakobrekla: hey dude why is your beer not in the fridge?
mircea_popescu: simple : large supply of actually in demand goods cheaper than in fiat.
mircea_popescu: there's this failed "web entrepreneur" mindset at work, "we make the site, the users fill it with stuff". that's nonsense.
ThickAsThieves: while i dont disagree i cant think of what could make a bitbay more relevant
mircea_popescu: "because bitcoin" ? that dun wash, it's not 2011.
mircea_popescu: what's the value proposition, why am i using it instead of ebay ?
ThickAsThieves: other than that it feels scammy to surf
mircea_popescu: currently there's not that many people focused on making sense tho.
mircea_popescu: in between these there's a huge space. pretty much anything could if it made sense.
mircea_popescu: something like bitmessage.org could ipo if it actually finished the product and monetized it
mircea_popescu: we need a bitcoin ebay. that bitmit thing ain't it. once it exists it could ipo
mircea_popescu: hard to tell.
ThickAsThieves: mp, who do you think are the best non-"public" bitcoin companies that would feasible IPO someday
mircea_popescu: so far we're still at the "but we don't need more btc" / "we are making our own exchange" phase it seems.
BitHub: when are you going to do a deal with wallstreet like coinlab?
mircea_popescu: if any companies worth listing get their shit together...
ThickAsThieves: mp, any new IPOs this spring?
mircea_popescu: ya there's little benefit of redundancy.
BitHub: extra? i thought it was included ontop of social media?
Namworld: Because that would be extra work for PR, so more salary to pay?
BitHub: why are you cockblocking the rest of us mircea? :(
mircea_popescu: well, she wouldn't hang on the forum either if it weren't her job
BitHub: you can tell me :)
ThickAsThieves: but that includes the tranches
ThickAsThieves: although i dont think .0060 is fair avg price to use
ThickAsThieves: i think i just got the 14k mixed up with the % in my head
ThickAsThieves: i was pretty far off with that sdice div
mircea_popescu: girl says .5 to .75 or so
BitHub: yeah i was think around that
Eduard_Munteanu: I've been told 1 BTC is a borderline acceptable price.
BitHub: where you are, look at the moon or sun.
BitHub: be ready to pay high for them tho
BitHub: well they just paid the first div, sooooo
Eduard_Munteanu: Any idea when trading will resume?
BitHub: i think they're doing something under the name bitfountain
BitHub: so friedcat could go through all the request and emails and assign shares to new people, its alot of work yaknow
Eduard_Munteanu: I don't want in on the IPO, I know that's over. Just the secondary market.
BitHub: selling, trading was suppose to stop on the 28th.
Eduard_Munteanu: On bitcointalk? I've seen that thread, but I have no idea how to buy one.
BitHub: its too late
mircea_popescu: lol i think the forum was doing the selling
Eduard_Munteanu: I kinda want to buy.
Eduard_Munteanu: Have they listed it on any exchange yet?
mircea_popescu: the div drops to something more like .45%
mircea_popescu: course if we consider something like the .5 asicminer is trading instead of the original .1 in the calculation
kakobrekla: whats the div gonna be
Namworld: People loading up for the dividend it seems
mod6: maybe i'll have to try something like this: http://sontek.net/blog/detail/turning-vim-into-a-modern-python-ide#window-splits
mod6: haha f that
mod6: I really like the emacs editor for python because of it's smart tabbing for instance if I have something like this
mod6: lol, i was just thinking "hmm, i wonder if there is a python plug in for vim..." the first return from google is this stack-exchange article where this has 11 points:
BitHub: i need the ticker data
kakobrekla: lookin at 31.90 from this side
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.41001, Best ask: 33.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 33.41001, 24 hour volume: 75885.19008028, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.00577
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu << so i brought my old twitter out of retirement
thestringpuller: the "what'd I do now" made me trust you more
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BitHub: need me to run it for you mircea?