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mike_c: i hate to turn down action, but feels like a tough wager. there are a lot of people i don'
t know.
mircea_popescu: mike_c actually i'll bet you a certain pizza you won'
t be able to guess all 4.
bounce: lopsided isn'
t really the word. somehow a better word eludes me for the moment.
bounce: then again, much of it isn'
t quite so very good either.
bounce: I don'
t think all communication is quite that lopsided, to be honest.
mircea_popescu: that's the trick with "being insulted" : it affords plausible deniability to they who don'
t want to have the truth extracted.
bounce: wouldn'
t surprise me if the NSA has everyone with a little crypto knowledge on watchlists just to see the privately-circulating papers
mircea_popescu: anyway. i know what he's pretending he's trying to say, but that ain'
t at all what he;s saying. what he's saying is "resistence is futile", that's the message, and it's a ridiculous.
bounce: still, they know what we know plus a bunch we don'
t know much about. we don'
t know how big it is, we don'
t know what it does. for that reason you have to be careful with their "gifts". that's the point he's making.
Apocalyptic: a possible explanation may be that cryptography as a field wasn'
t that broad in academia back then
mircea_popescu: and while we know what they don'
t know, they don'
t know what we know.
bounce: actually, no. they employ a fsckton of mathematicians and they know everything that's in the open plus an unspecified amount we don'
t know about. best guess (last I heard) was that they're about five years ahead of the open community with the research
BingoBoingo: I wouldn'
t be where I am today without the ability to swiftly dispatch a hangover
davout: mike_c jurov don'
t panic, it's actually mpex that's all upside down, assbot is fine
davout: you could trade potatoes it wouldn'
t make anything different
davout: Naphex: basically, the idea is that bitcoin isn'
t the issue,
Naphex: now don'
t know the specifics. but i will foward the european payment systems thingie, and see what answer comes
davout: if the answer is something along the lines of "no, because bitcoin isn'
t regulated", then you should run awat
jurov: that ask won'
t stay long there
Naphex: also i'm paid to code the stuff up. and make sure it doesn'
t get owned.
davout: Naphex: tbh i like that answer much better than "all is fine we don'
t need one" :-)
Naphex: sorry davout, can'
t answer much on that field.
mircea_popescu: and only because the two idiot investors who had enough sense that they shouldn'
t have been invested in the first place insisted.
davout: didn'
t prevent them from being buttraped on multiple legal accts
davout: mircea_popescu Naphex i'm afraid lawyers don'
t have a lot of clues when dealing with bitcoin, iirc gox had baker & mc kenzie
mircea_popescu: Naphex that can'
t be a gc, it has to be a corp officer. he can hire whoever, but ultimately signs off on it.
davout: Naphex: i mean it's usually required from corps that handle fiat funds on behalf of third parties to be financially registered, which doesn'
t appear to be the case
davout: Naphex: doesn'
t really look it
bounce: used a dual ppro for a while, though it wasn'
t mine and I had to give it back eventually.
bounce: oh right. no, I didn'
t have fancy new hardware.
gribble: Error: User doesn'
t exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
assbot: I don'
t give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: well, it's also a cheaper proposition - our market isn'
t only people-with-$$$, the BOINC/Folding@Home crowd need better cooling than 20cm fans in an ATX case but they can'
t afford / don'
t want to spend money on water cooling or mineral oil immersion
mircea_popescu: "MILK FUTURES RISE TO RECORD $24.29 PER 100 LBS IN CHICAGO. Who needs food anyway" << clearly, BingoBoingo isn'
t telling us everything.
fluffypony: some prefer to bend, some prefer to send, I don'
t judge
mircea_popescu: fluffypony there's a reason i don'
t read these things.
BigBitz: Meh isn'
t the AMS conference a flop?
BigBitz: Ah !up - didn'
t know the command. :)
ThickAsThieves: in debating whether to go to Amsterdam next month, my wife "you can'
t just go to Europe every month!" me: "why not? i can do whatever i want"
the20year: Is there a way to ID with gribble if he isn'
t here?
fluffypony: and then we spend all the money and don'
t do anything
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: davout: they're probably thinking they can just send a Raspberry Pi and an SSD up and it'll work <<< they shouldn'
t have to spring for a ssd.
fluffypony: Naphex: sure, but we aren'
t watching transactions
fluffypony: Naphex: doesn'
t matter, we're expecting 0.5 to address X, not to the "wallet" as a whole
fluffypony: Naphex: we watch the address for the amount requested; if it appears we know it's paid, if it doesn'
t (wrong amount, too late) we can'
t "contact the client" to let them know - they have to contact us and say "ohai, I screwed up"
mircea_popescu: "let's solve problems that don'
t exist through breaking the bitcoin protocol"
mrstickball: didn'
t know if there was something else to it
fluffypony: we aren'
t required (right now) to KYC to receive crypto
fluffypony: Naphex: how? they don'
t have our privkey to double-spend
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: yes - I've got deeper numbers on that that I can include, didn'
t know if it would be info overload
benkay: wouldn'
t gpu mining cbe require actual power bills?
fluffypony: ASICs certainly aren'
t, better to flip them
fluffypony: benkay: we weren'
t able to, the dude that rents them is dumb and only lets you observe, not take actual data (although with the new camera he has apparently he'll give us pics and data after)
benkay: that you didn'
t save your imaging data is a little boggling.
benkay: fluffypony: i don'
t really buy your claims about heat flow. those are the kinds of claims that need to be backed by sims and such.
jurov: even Gox still isn'
t taboo
fluffypony: benkay: pretty much everything you suggested, I kept PayBee in as I don'
t want to split it out into an entity on its own just yet
fluffypony: I think if they haven'
t signed in to iCloud/iMessage from an iOS device it takes them off the active list or whatevs
fluffypony: and it doesn'
t offer the blue iMessage option or anything any longer
davout: moiety: the best way to answer that is "because i didn'
t feel like it"
fluffypony: benkay: yeah, one of the reasons why I married my wife was because she wasn'
t full of shit like that (full of shit in other ways, but not pedantry/jealousy like that)
davout: fluffypony: you don'
t know french women
davout: kakobrekla: as long as we don'
t have the same gf :D
benkay: fluffypony: don'
t quite recall much more than writing my name on a piece of paper and dropping it into the pdf.
fluffypony: benkay: didn'
t know that - but doesn'
t the form need to have a dedicated PDF-compliant signature block to use that?
moiety: scotland's so backwards, you can'
t submit any forms online
bounce: didn'
t DARPA issue a "challenge" for cigarette-sized easily scatterable mobile APs?
fluffypony: davout: yeah I don'
t know what that commenter was thinking
davout: fluffypony: aren'
t SSD drives the least durable one could pick?
fluffypony: asciilifeform: but you don'
t have (c) and tm after that, so how can anyone trust you to store their BTC safely?
ThickAsThieves: i understand, yet can'
t grok how you'd actually go about proving a "house" can stand without load-bearing walls, in practice
mircea_popescu: it can'
t be disproven by showing some houses standing.
ThickAsThieves: you can'
t say, the definition of "definition" is definition
bounce: just add brokers, and free market theory says it'll cease to be broken. well, at least the brokers won'
t go broke.