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Bowjob: Avalon will now cost 88 BTC to 115 BTC
mircea_popescu: right. we're going to do anything and we have no plan whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: "- Of course the above would be moot if the spread was sky-high. We intend to push it as low as possible, and give you the best of both worlds - the liquidity of a market-maker but also the low spreads possible in a parimutuel or similar approach."
kakobrekla: i thought it was sdice first
mircea_popescu: wtf is all this nonsense!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla wait, so he wants to eat mpex for lunch by competing with bitbet ?!
mircea_popescu: you mean the estonian ?
jurov: i seriously consider offering my expertise to that finnish man.. and promptly outsource it to dunnowhere
Chaang-Noi: oh? iv not seen to much of that
mircea_popescu: i shudder to think what will happen when 1000
mjr_: otherwise known as the slot machines of finance
mircea_popescu: a ok then
kakobrekla: but he has a tie.
mircea_popescu: is this a new one ?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.20002, Best ask: 59.30983, Bid-ask spread: 0.10981, Last trade: 59.30983, 24 hour volume: 104205.20199766, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.60493
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.30000, Best ask: 59.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19998, Last trade: 59.29983, 24 hour volume: 104385.36260976, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.59737
pigeons: surely he expected that
pigeons: which shouldn't violate my agreement not to post it publically, bu i dont know
mircea_popescu: pigeons did you share that book with an interested party ?
mjr_: similar to blockchain.info
mjr_: it would simply be an address that is monitored
mjr_: i don't think so...
Diablo-D3: the problem with a browser is you'd need to have it running all the time
mjr_: like you would "fund" your browser...and then you would browse away to your hearts content, offering up micropayments for content that you want
mjr_: if you could automate that process...make it a click that a plugin handles behind the scenes
mjr_: i was just thinking of mircea's model
mjr_: "Actually, if you don’t know anything about talking to computers my best advice to you is “marry someone who does”. Definitely." worth the price of admission
Diablo-D3: mjr_: you wouldnt need that actually
mjr_: is there anyone working on a chrome plugin that could be used to pay bitcoins to websites?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.11710, Best ask: 59.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13290, Last trade: 59.11710, 24 hour volume: 106528.71037829, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.47445
mjr_: i have been sending my friends pictures of cats with encrypted messages in them
mjr_: really want to read the stego article
mjr_: i can't do the bitcointalk forum
mjr_: mircea_popescu: I'm so glad that trilema is back up...lots of good articles
Chaang-Noi: if only that were true
mircea_popescu: symbol now trades for 2014 delivery.
mircea_popescu: "No, it is not. It is just the thing that we offer people to bet for. And I would be delighted to know what exactly makes us any more vulnerable to angry gov that MPEx and SD are."
mircea_popescu: "If anyone is interested in buying securities that copy the MPEx dividend payouts but do not involve any dealings with the actual MPEx shares (such as share loans, etc.), PM me. About 1 million will be issued if there is demand. If issued, the securities will be backed by an incorporated company with EUR 200,000 total assets, of which 1500 BTC."
mircea_popescu: person can't spell fund, is big time mover and shaker with experience and etc.
mircea_popescu: so banks/tv/etc in south korea offline due to cyber attack
Diablo-D3: pigeons: that should be easy to setup with js then
Chaang-Noi: d3, welsome to bitcoin and the internet :)
pigeons: i just tested
Diablo-D3: it doesnt seem to do it
pigeons: you'll never guess the name
Diablo-D3: I wonder if theres a block chain info site that can give me a total list of all money sent to an address
zefir: Chaang: if you did that, it will be challenging to undelete them. first thing you need to do is shutting system down to prevent further write accesses
Namworld: But difficulty should probably cap as to avoid ever lowering odds and never reaching jackpot.
Namworld: Wouldn’t be a bad idea like that. Would make more sense.
Diablo-D3: fine, have the difficulty go up as the pot goes up
Namworld: The two combines and urgh...
Namworld: Especially since the jackpot is small too
Namworld: Odds too low unless difficulty go down. Not interesting for anyone to bet.
Diablo-D3: [04:07:08] <Diablo-D3> if I set it to less than 1000 ,its 184 million
Diablo-D3: [04:06:59] <Diablo-D3> i184 billion per btc is if the difficulty is less than 1
Diablo-D3: [04:06:38] <Diablo-D3> 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible
Diablo-D3: yes, I already said that
Namworld: The odds are way too low.
Namworld: yeah, but that’s like zero incentive for first people to put anything.
Diablo-D3: if I set it to less than 1000 ,its 184 million
Diablo-D3: i184 billion per btc is if the difficulty is less than 1
Diablo-D3: 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible
Namworld: I could get 21 million x 58 USD ticket and have a 1/8784 odds of winning a maximum of... 21 million BTC.
Diablo-D3: Namworld: you bet 1 BTC for 100000000 tickets, actually
Namworld: I bet 1 BTC (58 USD) for one ticket.
Diablo-D3: I dont think you wrote what you thought you wrote
Namworld: powerball would have like close to infinite higher chances to win
Diablo-D3: Namworld: no different than powerball really
Namworld: You could bet all freaking 21 BTC and have as good as null chances to win the jackpot...
Diablo-D3: 1.8 trillion
Diablo-D3: no wait I did that wrong
Diablo-D3: and theres 8 places in 1 BTC
Namworld: like with those odds, one would bet 21 million BTC and have lower odds to win than winning the state lottery 5 times in a row.
Diablo-D3: Namworld: no, I said I probably got the magnitude wrong
Namworld: so odds of winning is not 1:1 trillion
Diablo-D3: take txid, hash it, then take the first x bytes and see if its less than the taget
Namworld: You can’t have a 1:1 trillion chance to win for a BTC
Diablo-D3: the way the rest are
Namworld: But... how do you determine the winner?
tiberiusiv: namworld: who do you use to cashout?
Namworld: You mean 1:1 trillion per satoshi...
Diablo-D3: I'll even seed the pot with 100 BTC
Namworld: 1 chance on a trillion per BTC?
Diablo-D3: I might not have the right magnitude
Namworld: Assuming one winner every 1 trillion, pot should reach an average of 10k BTC
Diablo-D3: the pot could go up to thousands of btc
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: have like a 1 in a trillion chance of winning
Chaang-Noi: bowjob all day these spikes of sells, someone is dumping with out killing the market
Bowjob: im watching the action on coinlab
Chaang-Noi: oh you want to do that by itself,
Diablo-D3: and all the money that goes into the jackpot stays there except, say, 1%
Chaang-Noi: yeah that is good
Diablo-D3: every satoshi is a ticket
Diablo-D3: yes but what about this
Bowjob: so we might see the action in euro
Bowjob: those cypriots.. i assume they will deal in EUR
Bowjob: i want a simple exchange. transfer money -> buy btc, withraw
Chaang-Noi: d3, ill pay you to make one for me in ltc :)
Bowjob: i just look at cavirtex. too many fucking rules
Diablo-D3: I think I might consider starting a SD competitor