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mircea_popescu: there was a guy on
the forum servicing a long
term btc loan
jcpham: so it's a hard loan
to me financially
jcpham: anything you could have bought over
the last year, other
than btc, you lot money on
technically
jcpham: good chance of digging out of
the hole by staying in btc
mircea_popescu: i didn't.
teh original mpoe bonds got like 9500 or so btc
jcpham: if you converted it
to fiat you are fucked
jcpham: pretty difficult
to repay
that
[\\\]: he started with
the highest rated people
kakobrekla: perhaps i did it a couple of
times
too
kakobrekla: dunno he gets banned all
the
time everywhere
smickles: what did you do
to piss off supadupajenkins?
kakobrekla: was
trying
to avoid
that supa guy but eh i guess it was inevitable
mircea_popescu: anyway,
too much excitement for one day. catch y'all
tomorrow
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6675621.2732 based on data since last change | 7300703.18663 based on data for last
three days
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gribble: There are currently 6216.5875 bitcoins offered at or under 79.94 USD, worth 483397.146716 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
gribble: There are currently 36901808 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6991511.75172 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0205 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 74.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last
trade: 74.25000, 24 hour volume: 78120.01656022, 24 hour low: 69.51777, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.67017
mircea_popescu: yeah, but it'd just need more code
to decide if you've got lines or wtf.
kakobrekla: can i do a few CANCEL|N in several lines and signcrypt
that?
smickles: kakobrekla: i just use
threadding in my code
kakobrekla: oh and i was just about
to bug mp one of
these days
to add multi op
jborkl: holy shit
transactions are slow
to get into blocks
today
smickles: all
the f-ing
time. I can't be
the only one
smickles: ya know, i
throw about 12 commands at mpex all at once
mircea_popescu: jurov
the way i figure it, either attacker is defeated and depressed or else we see a new blast in a week or
two.
Bugpowder: so exercise only makes sense if you have >>1000 contracts and want
to dump fast, or
the bot is down (last 24 hrs of
the month).
Bugpowder: though
the MPOE bot always pays a
time premium over
the current 24hprc with its bids
Bugpowder: yah, you need 24vwap
to hit 80.3
to make a profit from exercise
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 75.95000, Best ask: 76.27129, Bid-ask spread: 0.32129, Last
trade: 75.60270, 24 hour volume: 73639.35968273, 24 hour low: 69.25000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.57049
smickles: in
the money (if
that's what you're asking)
Bugpowder: depending if you believe 24hprc is going
to go
to
the spot
Bugpowder: so
the option is potentially underpriced
smickles: right now, it's out of
the money
tho
Bugpowder: you could exercise it for (24vwap - $75) / 24vwap
till midnight friday
deadweasel: so if I bough
that, I could buy BTC at 75$ up
til friday?
deadweasel: O.BTCUSD.C750T -- if I bought one of
those, what does
that mean?
ThickAsThieves: must not be enough incentive for gox
to fix
the problem
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: is
that what you are doing with
the OIX?
smickles: deadweasel: bitfloor was doing
that, but people lost confidence in it after a
theft
deadweasel: the answer feels like it's going
to be obvious........
jurov: deadweasel yes
there is something like
that already ;)
gribble: There are currently 2614.6875 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 184818.944829 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 10.4289 seconds
gribble: There are currently 5535.7599 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 438703.38709 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
deadweasel: so normal exchanges have high speed connections
to hig profile brokerages.
These
things don't break like
this.
There is in opportunity
to improve
this.
Bugpowder: That selloff was from half
the wall at 80 selling
to market :)
Bugpowder: couldn't even
trigger
the OH NOES cartoon on bitcoinity
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 76.00000, Best ask: 77.01000, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last
trade: 75.50000, 24 hour volume: 73639.35968273, 24 hour low: 69.25000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.57049
Bugpowder: propping
the price with
the ole buyout rumor...
mircea_popescu: one way
to eat everyone's cake, seeing how coinbases of
the world can't compete.
mircea_popescu: mpex happens
to be
the PERFECT way for a bank
to develop it's own in house btc-fiat
trading system
mircea_popescu: it's getting
to where im starting
to smell
the offers
tbh.
Bugpowder: this BTC price is really
tough for S.DICE
to overcome
though. But its good for MPOE
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: I suspect we will see a rotation out of S.MPOE
this month.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 76.60000, Best ask: 76.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14999, Last
trade: 76.60000, 24 hour volume: 73428.60406774, 24 hour low: 69.20000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.54512
deadweasel: anyway, i'll deal with being a money
transmitter if I ever need
to.
deadweasel: Although I've never lived more
than a few hours drive from either canada or mexico
deadweasel: so, 10BTC per day ;) I'll go re-read
that.
Bugpowder: but it seemed
that
there was some conflicting language
Bugpowder: I read it
that if you keep sales
to < $1000 day its ok
deadweasel: i'd have
to re-read, I
thought any amount into USD.
deadweasel: course at
that point aren't supposed
to abide by
the FinCen guidlines, you would be money
transmitter..
jurov: but
the point is doing by localbitcoins isn't so big hassle
jurov: ofc, i prefer
to do it via bank anytime possible
kakobrekla: well
the problem
that im seeing now is if banks close its harder
to liquidate coins
jurov: amirite,
tiberiusiv?
jurov: and still... certain people freaked out about notion
to convert all fiat income into btc
mircea_popescu: won't happen again one off
thing i mean one off
thing each country i mean monthly from now on