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mircea_popescu: yes dude, you are.
that's what fucking up is. missing body parts.
Chaang-Noi: you wanted me
to read inauncall your girl names?
dub: as
ThickAsThieves is saying
there is no market for AM beyond a couple of pissant PTs and some forum auctions
topace: Bowjob: yes,
the leveraged
trading will happen on virtex, using
the short fund on havelock as collateral
Bowjob: and its guaranteed since i
think
they'll make people put up collateral
mircea_popescu: and in general, when you're sent
to do reading it's because you're sprouting nonsense.
ThickAsThieves: regarding asicminer, its still a very small amount of shares even being
traded
dub: all I see is sour grapes
tbh
Bowjob: if you watched
the video.. he mentioned
the leverage as part of cavirtex
Bowjob: i can lend some btc
there, have 12% guaranteed
Chaang-Noi: cant back up crazy claim, says not
trollin, lol
Bowjob: I'm interested on
the leveraged
trading,
topace: im sure
there'll be dividends eventually
mircea_popescu: read
the forum
threads linked above, i won't bother rehashing it.
Bowjob: so
topace how are investors gonna get paid
topace: ThickAsThieves: yea, we delayed it 3
times due
to prospectus re-writes
ThickAsThieves: maybe YOU didnt do
this, but
the asset also had a nice prospectus, and a video
mircea_popescu: the fact
that
they've cost
their investors 100k btc or so makes me jelly.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi ya dude,
totally.
the fact
that
they failed
to meet spec is something
that makes me jelly.
topace: hehe yea, i didnt do _anything_ all we did was put
the banner on
the www.cavirtex.com website and a news article on havelock website
Chaang-Noi: i
think your just jelly it is not on your exchange and you did not invest with
them:)
Bowjob: mp, what happened
to
the avalon bet
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi you may not be
the only one
that
thinks
that's silly, but
that's quite irrelevant.
topace: give people
time
to prep and move funds
to havelock
Chaang-Noi: you show me one volume of one pt and say it means something about
the company? im not
the only one who would
think
that is silly
topace: i was baffled why he didnt want
to announce it at least a few days ahead of
time
topace: Bowjob: yea it was announced on
the website, but if you werent on
teh website when it happened you wouldnt even have known
mircea_popescu: people who
think
they're smarter are much akin
to
the street prophets in ny.
Chaang-Noi: pt is pass
though, it is not real stock
Bowjob: that
they will announce an ipo soon
Bowjob: it was on
the website on cavirtex.. i remember
topace: and
the owner (joseph) didnt even email his user base
to
tell
them about it either
Chaang-Noi: but you dont even know what
the vo;lume is, but i still disagree, some private companies are worth more
than highly
traded ones
topace: yea VTX sold out in ~12 hours.. WITHOUT any pre-announcement of when
teh IPO was happening
Bowjob: i learned
though, if i see huge volume..
mircea_popescu: the fact
that asicminer fucked up
their ipo is NOT an excuse for
them
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi
the
trade volume IS
the controlling argument.
Bowjob: i was wrong about vtx, i didnt see any dividends, i didnt
think it was gonna get funded
Chaang-Noi: mircea_popescu> 2x asicminer volume yest. why is
that ? is cavirtex a larger corp
than asicminer ? i was answering
this question
topace: Bowjob: not in
the immediate future
Chaang-Noi: why are you
talking about
the
trade volume if it is a nonargumnt? im just saying you cant see
the real
trade volume,
that is a fact :/
Bowjob: i couldnt understand
the vtx pump either, i missed it
mircea_popescu: the fact
that i can't see it speaks against it not excusing it.
Chaang-Noi: you cant see asicminer
trade volume mp, only one of
two pt
Bowjob: canadians love
their companies
mircea_popescu: 2x asicminer volume yest. why is
that ? is cavirtex a larger corp
than asicminer ?
Chaang-Noi: yeah im not selling more, i had
to get some cash
Chaang-Noi: dividends wont end anytime soon, not sure what
the value really should be at but im not selling mine:)
Bugpowder_: ah,
that
thread was
the one I was
thinking of for
the girl's estimates
Chaang-Noi: mp one sell off on a
thin market, still
the only real asic company out
there
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6880830.90136 based on data since last change | 7242616.81723 based on data for last
three days
Bugpowder_: but
the valuation is looking pretty frothy
Bugpowder_: What would be
the appropriate subform
to post an add
to borrow asicminer shares?
dub: we need
to identify
that building and burn it down with
those
two inside
dub: did you see
the latest
taaki video?
mircea_popescu: It's unclear how much risk discount investors would be wanting
to apply
to
that valuation, and it's also unclear how much discount will willy-nilly end up being applied in
the event ASICMiner actually foregoes liquidity and lists on some marginal venue. But in any case
things look pretty bright at
the moment, so well done!
mircea_popescu: Bitfountain
the
third multi-million dollar Bitcoin public corp in Bitcoin history.
mircea_popescu: All
these
things considered it is perhaps not unreasonable
to judge ASICMiner revenue generation ability in
the 5
to 15k BTC a month range. If
this is in fact correct it's also not unreasonable
to judge ASICMiner's market cap roughly equal or a little under
that of Satoshi Dice, in which case
the 400,000 share company would be worth on MPEx somewhere between 3 and 600k BTC, or between .75 and 1.5 BTC per share, making
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 75.30000, Best ask: 75.37700, Bid-ask spread: 0.07700, Last
trade: 75.55000, 24 hour volume: 80678.53152168, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.58758
Bugpowder_: mircea_popescu:
the girl's estimates were .075
to 0.15 no?
Bowjob: that means
they expect asicminer
to make at least 400k BTC
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves
the girl's early estimate was .75
to 1.5
Bugpowder_: well,
the market is uhhh.... a little -thin- below 0.75
ThickAsThieves: probly just someone who moved from friedcat
to btct
to sell
Bugpowder_: how people keep getting BTC given
to
them as loans is utterly mystifying
to me.
jcpham: loans are like gift.
the blockchain is god.