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tiberiusiv: without having
to deal with charlie shrem and bitinstant
tiberiusiv: only downside is its mostly catering
to canadians at
this point
tiberiusiv: under 2hrs
to fund in canada, and same day withdrawls
tiberiusiv: so far cavirtex is
the fastest withdraw/deposit exchange available
tiberiusiv: cavirtex fees will be down alot by
the end of
the year
pigeons: i had a guy
tell me yesterday he wanted
to deposit cad with weex but was afraid since
the market was so
thin, he'd have
to pay
the 4.50$ withdraw fee
pigeons: Ukto: you need
to get some of
that market
pigeons: wait
they charge 2% on
the btc side of
the
trade?
pigeons: we've seen what
that's worth
tiberiusiv: pigeons: virtex is real canadian shares
though
Namworld: if
that's 10% per year,
than price should be at least 0.73
Namworld: but assuming a minimum of 1k BTC
traded daily and average of 2% fees.
Namworld: but people pay a good price/income on
there
Namworld: well
there's only 2 cases other
than SDICE... not really representative...
Namworld: pigeons, remember
that most stuff on Havelock go
to 10% or under per year
gribble: There are currently 36697360 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8718811.60498 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0179 seconds
Namworld: Let
the price flash crash
to 0.01 USD per BTC (MtGox hax #2)
Bowjob: well if btc crashes
to 31, ian will
turn legit
Bowjob: in
the form of flash crashes
Namworld: I could sell
them into
the 2 satoshi bids...
Bowjob: eh, im in
this for
the long haul, let
the bears have
their fun
Namworld: I got puts at 31 from
the beggining of
the month >.>
Namworld: I could see us reaching 100... or at least hitting against
the resistance
there.
gribble: There are currently 9697.4468 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 761706.200795 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 3.0644 seconds
gribble: There are currently 10614.009 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 759660.325336 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 75.00002, Best ask: 75.51612, Bid-ask spread: 0.51610, Last
trade: 75.51612, 24 hour volume: 80957.53550534, 24 hour low: 70.78624, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.64243
ThickAsThieves: My first day
trading options on MPEX and I'm up 22.5%, heyo!
tiberiusiv: mpex's only "edge" so far is its dominance of option
trading
tiberiusiv: you can make all
the statements you want mp, facts speak for
themselves and mpex has 1 firm on it
that is not related
to mpex.
mircea_popescu: and you can't manipulate me into it either, simply because of
the size differential.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a school setting and you're certainly not
the clever kid in
the class or anything.
tiberiusiv: really
they are wrong? like mtgox losing market share for 2 years?
mircea_popescu: with
the expectation someone will argue you into sense.
mircea_popescu: listen, you have
this broken approach
to learning whereby you make definitive statements
that are both wrong and uninformed
tiberiusiv: btc companies work for short
time periods before competition becomes intense
tiberiusiv: theres also been countless gold
transfer firms
that have busted
too
tiberiusiv: i
think over
the longrun you will be better off just owning btc outright
then btc companies
Bowjob: involved in
the 0.008
transaction
tiberiusiv: or were
they using asicminer shares
to finance avalon orders lol
Bowjob: it was equally painful and pleasurable for
the parties
Bowjob: i remember
the fiat value was about 80k usd
Bowjob: yeah so around 4k btc worth... at
the
time?
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, prices vary a lot more
than
that for a lot less reason.
tiberiusiv: thickasthieves: no it was just interesting
to see
the stock price react
ThickAsThieves: what is your point
tib?
that mpex must bow
to havelock?
tiberiusiv: how when most of
the shares are still for sale
mircea_popescu: for
the record, bitbet is a
tiny corp and collected something like
that.
mircea_popescu: you were just born last night so you
think
this morning is "the best morning
to date".
tiberiusiv: mircea: well, it would have been nice
that
the higher quality issuances use mpex
tiberiusiv: i dont even
think sdice sold out
that fast
tiberiusiv: cavirtex may have been
the most successful ipo
to date?
mircea_popescu: what,
thre's some golden rule
that all ipos must happen on mpex or something ?
tiberiusiv: mircea_popescu: i
think mpex shares declined due
to missing out on
the cavirtex ipo
tiberiusiv: mp: are you under
the assumption options
tend
to predict
the future?
Bowjob: or we just go straight
to july
Bowjob: i wonder if
there's gonna be a bet before may 1st avalon
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 75.60501, Best ask: 75.69800, Bid-ask spread: 0.09299, Last
trade: 75.60500, 24 hour volume: 80478.52504177, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.59924
mircea_popescu: "The other factor, of course, is
that Bitcoin can't be manipulated as easily as gold and silver obviously are. "
Chaang-Noi: i
think im going
to lose my bet
thinking bfl would ship
this month, lol
Bowjob: mhm, maybe its a good idea
to make my own mini farm starting with 1 avalon
mircea_popescu: next
thing out of my mouth was "so are you lending stock ?" but averted.
topace: hehe, worked well for
the fpga's
topace: when
they are sitting on my desk, HIM buys
them from ME
mircea_popescu: so basically you hold
the early option
to 1.8th of bfl
topace: yea, starting
to really bother me
too.. however -- its not paid for with HIM funds
Bowjob: how much was
the 1.5 minirig
topace: dating back
to
the first week of pre-orders
topace: what we had saved
to buy asics
to cover 4-6 units, now will cover pretty much all 30 units we have on preorder
topace: thanks
to
the btc appreciation
topace: but... we also have 1.8Th on pre-order, and most of which will be paid for with re-invested earnings (so no need
to issue new units
to buy
the units up front)
topace: when all
the ASIC shit hit
the fan
topace: due
to
the reinvestment in new fpga's
Bowjob: they are pretty silent over
there, josh is just going insulting people on
the forums
Bowjob: yeah
thats a pretty good fund, i like it... but. dat bfl
topace: your share is always your percent share of
the
total
mircea_popescu: topace
those do poorly historically. what's it got, fpga ?
Bowjob: the only
thing
that bothers me is
that you
took bfl pre orders
Bowjob: same as asicminer,
tho smaller