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jurov: how can dollar liquidity tighten i current situation, i ask again?
Lyspooner: how many of the 60,000 75puts did mircea_popescu buy?
jborkl: does not matter to me
jborkl: 800 million market cap for bitcoins, in the world economy is exactly shit
jurov: and where else will the money go to, then?
jborkl: both US stocks and BTC will top out roughly the same time
jborkl: so by your terms, bitcoin will stop going up when the fed stops printing money, which will be never
jurov: now why do you think that is?
Bugpowder__: looks like you are having trouble predicting the past
jurov: there should have been a peak in also 2009 then, no?
jurov: so this rally last 2 weeks is caused by usd doing something?
benkay: listen to the orthodoxy
jurov: everyone waits for govt to verify them
dub: other than the one that got hacked, had all its coins sold off and destroyed confidence in btc in generall
dub: not sure that was related to any market
Bugpowder__: US market has not topped yet
benkay: us market topped in july
Bugpowder__: need space for the carseat.
jurov: Bugpowder__: you can keep the tesla. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/03/mercedes-benz-sls-electric/#slideid-56056
gribble: There are currently 11005.086 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 834370.275355 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.6584 seconds
dub: theres an insidious form of idiot tax I've encountered where customs try to push you through a brokerage to pay sales tax
dub: possibly customs brokerage though
Bowjob: If it was USPS there wouldnt be brokerage
benkay: whatchoo talkin about bowjob?
Bowjob: but that $21.00 brokerage stung. wtf
Bowjob: i know, i should be sleeping normally at this hour
kakobrekla: go back to sleep
Bugpowder__: or to exercise a put?
Bugpowder__: Do I need to own shares to buy a put?
Ukto: Bugpowder__: if you execute a put, you get (amount) * (strike price[aka trade price])
benkay: programmed to make 1 visitor to the porn site look like 1 visitor exploring the other sites
benkay: itty bitty little iframes all over the porn sites
benkay: did you read about the guy running loads of free porn sites to drive up pageviews on his health sites for impressionfraud?
Bugpowder__: sup tiberiusiv
benkay: _Cristian you have to make that call on your own
_Cristian: benkay: and is it trustworthy?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.12474, Best ask: 78.20340, Bid-ask spread: 0.07866, Last trade: 78.12474, 24 hour volume: 60030.23352097, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.85850
Bugpowder__: Ukto, so if I buy puts on ASICMINER on bitfunder. When I execute the puts, do I get the difference between the last price and the strike price or what?
_Cristian: you mentioned him earlier and I was curious to find out more
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.77125, Best ask: 77.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20875, Last trade: 77.98000, 24 hour volume: 60339.76121126, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.84286
benkay: but nobody playing in the big bad scawwy assets space
benkay: there are some idiots here who are doing things to some degree or another
benkay: you'll note that most people in the space are operating from *outside* the us
benkay: anyone who says otherwise and tries to operate out of the us will likely get their face stomped in
benkay: and let's be real here for a half damn second if you want to play in this space in the us it means licensing
MJR_: fuck that was a boring day
Ukto: who was bothering them
Ukto: i think it was put in there to make someone shut up
Ukto: but they cant really enforce it.
Ukto: they tried to touch on directly selling ecurrenc for $$ (local/direct trades)
Ukto: well, they require licensing if your a us based exchange.
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner yes. i have said "here is fincen saying what I said back in october and all the reddit "lawyers" laughed at"
Ukto: fincen has shown it will not make an enemy of bitcoin and specified how to do it legal
dub: also you have to trust some guy with an anime avatar.. sheesh
Ukto: weex is not in the us
mircea_popescu: Ukto what's your take on the entire fincen thing btw ?
dub: well its an extra account to have for no appreciable reason
Ukto: correct. what about that is "hard"? unless clicking some buttons is "difficult"
dub: don't you need an acct on weex to use bf?
Ukto: and wha serial scams are you refering to ?
Bugpowder__: not enough liquidity to make it worth it
Bugpowder__: maybe I'll just do that
Bugpowder__: hmmm they have puts on the price though
dub: you need a weex account, tickle ukyo's balls, expose yourself to serial scamee DT
dub: buttfunder is even harder than btct
ThickAsThieves: I leave you guys for a few hours and you can't even get the price to 80? cmon
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.39000, Best ask: 77.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 77.39000, 24 hour volume: 58618.02997539, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.81664
toffoo: right, i'd have to create them, i got the real things
KRS1: i don't know enough about this, im still trying to structure my investment
toffoo: but with all the manual movements, pt creatations, etc. you probably won't be able to do anything too fast
toffoo: i guess there's still some bids on bitfunder,
Bugpowder__: I'm thinking about cancelling it
toffoo: Bugpowder__: I've been thinking about replying to your offer
KRS1: bugpowder: do you have a link to your asicminer offer?
dub: yo, anyone want to borrow some asicminer?
Bugpowder__: WELL THEN
dub: deadweasel: I think this one http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-11812.aspx
deadweasel: time to leave work. adios y'all! keep makin' money!
mircea_popescu: "they shall crash bitcoin and save the day"
mircea_popescu: don't tell me somethingbawful is stupid enough to imagine
deadweasel: jcpham: offer to lend Bugpowder__ your AM shares, he pays you 1.05x divs
Bugpowder__: "WARNING: This OP's account was well known and active on the Something Awful forums, in the anti-bitcoin threads in both GBS and YOSPOS (the username was changed recently). Everything /u/PaidGovernmentShill is saying should be treated with extreme skepticism until ample proof is given."
deadweasel: i had that last, good stuff. but then I had the 12, and remembered why it's more.
jcpham: what is the asicminer offer
deadweasel: is that the 10 year fine oak?
dub: deadweasel: yeah pretty good stuff, I've got one of the oaked expression s
Bugpowder__: in a month or two
Bugpowder__: and give the shares back
deadweasel: also isn't AM rather over-valued now that they are paying themselves?
Bugpowder__: nobody taking me up on the asicminer offer
deadweasel: dub... i just know how to enjoy it, not spell it.
mircea_popescu: <jborkl> MPEX could not be easier to use, once you learn how to use it <<< this.
MJR_: i had all my friends stuff wax in their ears, but i just tied myself to the mast
deadweasel: strap me to the mast with rope, plug your ears with seaweed, and ROW ON!
jurov: but it's also warning, don't heed the calls of the sirens :)
MJR_: i like the mermaid
deadweasel: jurov: just funded my account. nice I like the logo!
jurov: deadweasel, the plan is for mermaid to stay: http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/coinbr-248x50.png
deadweasel: Bugpowder__: thanks!
Bugpowder__: off the labors of others.