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kakobrekla: 21:20.03 (
ThickAsThieves ) gives GPU miners a way
to make $ < -
that is just bullshit
jcpham: but money should flow
to litecoin as btc rises
jcpham: i read an article where someone proposed
that litecoin was
the only bitcoin hedge avaialble
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 110.98903, Best ask: 111.46900, Bid-ask spread: 0.47997, Last
trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 79381.21726820, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 111.50000, 24 hour vwap: 105.18525
ThickAsThieves: call options are already 10% more expensive
than yesterday
gribble: There are currently 30931488 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10330339.7285 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0107 seconds
taub: i was surprised
to see
that
the
thinner depth would eat up
the heavy walls
taub: whats
that site where you can do depth playback again?
Bugpowder_: makes me nervous
that guy with
the wall at 112 is gonna do a market sell of a few
thousands coins
though..
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 109.80110, Best ask: 110.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19890, Last
trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 79316.48734208, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 110.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.05549
Bugpowder_: but
the sudden drop in
total bid $ coupled with
the big market buy strongly suggests it was a single buyer.
Bugpowder_: as soon as we hit
the 108.98 wall, he dropped his bid and ate
the wall.
Bugpowder_: because
then you don't push
the price higher until
the wall falls
gribble: There are currently 30931480 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10260638.5802 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 20.2586 seconds
ThickAsThieves: we already hate you for
taking all our bond money remember ;)
Bugpowder_: btw - nobody hate me when
this shit finally reverses and everyone has calls.
taub: so i can
test stuff n
the bs model
taub: someonek nows what he uses at
the risk free rate of return?
Bugpowder_: hard when
the option price is so freaking high
taub: hits option book was like if you buy both directions you can make profit no matter what direction
the price goes
Bugpowder_: there are definitely whales with 10x my bankroll doing options
trades
taub: but
they cancel out :(
taub: positioning myself on
the edges
taub: yea, so far made a couple of good
trades
Bugpowder_: people are going
to get pounded on
that .
gribble: A market order
to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 108125.4045 USD and would
take
the last price down
to 107.6869 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.1254 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.6214 seconds
gribble: A market order
to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would
take 108976.2633 USD and would
take
the last price up
to 108.9800 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.9763 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds
taub: might as well go where
the levereage is
taub: i jumped on
the litecoin
train
gribble: There are currently 41869.349 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 14600578.5014 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 77.8940 seconds
mjr_: oh nvm i
thought
that was asks
gribble: There are currently 30933900 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10496396.4646 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 40.7205 seconds
gribble: There are currently 4766.1097 bitcoins offered at or under 109.99 USD, worth 520053.88321 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 30.1631 seconds
mjr_: Bugpowder_: yeah
thats what i was
thinking
Bugpowder_: I suspect it is still
to short
the most expensive ones.
Bugpowder_: mjr_: but deposit requirements increase for puts
that are deeper in
the money. I haven't yet figured out
the optimal play
there.
Bugpowder_: you can plug
the equations into matlab or google docs
to figure out your crossover point. Namworld should probably do
this, it would make his calculator more useful
Bugpowder_: If deposit requirements were equal,
than you want
to short
the most expensive puts for max possible gain
Bugpowder_: mjr_: because
the deposit capital requirements for puts are not precisely reported
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 108.76000, Best ask: 108.83000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last
trade: 108.83000, 24 hour volume: 73582.22634863, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 104.61796
smickles: too many people keep
trying
to use it
smickles: gwa, i'm going
to have
to make an $oix command now
Bugpowder_: but its
the only way
to get a 15x on your bet
Bugpowder_: max leverage is max risk of
total loss of course
bitesssak: can you say differently : 1 strike inside
the 'lower limit' price
Bugpowder_: the bot has a built in lower limit for what it will sell for,
to guard against extreme long
tail moves.
mjr_: what is
the 'lower limit' price?
Bugpowder_: If you want max leverage, go for
the strike
that is 1 strike inside
the 'lower limit' price.
bitesssak: an hour ago, even
those at 182 were
the same as 200
mjr_: i
think
the bot may be a bit more careful
this month,
the spread seems wider
bitesssak: I saw
that options of 191 are
the same price as 200
Bugpowder_: The calls are probably all underpriced, given
the
trend
mjr_: but i was hoping
that if you get
the highest strike it would not be so much, but still like a $20 option
mjr_: the
time decay is huge
unbalanced: I don't
think steady will happen
this month.
Bugpowder_: although usually
that is back end loaded (faster decay near
the end of
the period).
Bugpowder_: If everything stays steady... Calls at
the current strike price will lose about 5% of value per day
smickles: well, calls rise with
the price
too
jurov: and got
them upgraded
unbalanced: BitHub: I
think it will apply -
things will get insane before
they settle down.
gribble: There are currently 31144690 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10545333.4115 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 27.5381 seconds
BitHub: i dont
think
the world bubble applies
to bitcoin
tho
unbalanced: I just mean we're not in
the actual bubble yet.
Bugpowder_: 110 is not going
to last more
than a few hours now