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taub: hold on
to your hats
mod6: yeah. everyone and
their grandma wants btc
taub: signs
to get out prolly
mircea_popescu: the sheeple following
trends are doing a "we follow baaa baaaa" number on bitcoin
taub: even fiat flucutates against each otehr a
ton
mircea_popescu: this is basically
the worst attack on bitcoin from
the very people bitcoin is here
to slaughter.
ThickAsThieves: hah
thats exactly
the only word i could come up with earlier
taub: well
that's gonna happen eventually
mircea_popescu: taub not even. affraid we'll end up with a rehash of
the runup
to 30
ThickAsThieves: is it possible for something
to be oversold and overpriced?
taub: afraid you'll have
to eat a big loss again?
gribble: There are currently 41029910 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9741936.25613 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 7.8355 seconds
gribble: There are currently 19338.039 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 3212573.62477 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 7.0612 seconds
gribble: There are currently 6271.479 bitcoins offered at or under 149.0 USD, worth 865227.350584 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.537715 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.00107757483944 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin
to
the other side of
the Earth, along
the surface (0.0001339 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 127.00000, Best ask: 127.00003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00003, Last
trade: 127.00000, 24 hour volume: 93833.30411689, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 113.90981
unbalanced__: It's easy in stocks for dozens of hedge funds
to beat a stock price into
the ground
to accumulate more, if naked short selling is allowed in
those markets. Here it's a lot harder
to rein in a bull run, no?
mircea_popescu: a whale doesn't have any particular interest in fighting
the
tape.
unbalanced__: Since I'm long BTC and crazy bullish, and aim
to buy calls soon, I was just
trying
to suss out, how loaded would a whale have
to be
to
turn
this bull run around?
mircea_popescu: yeah. if you go over
that you're basically leveraging into a short.
mircea_popescu: price goes
to 50. your puts are now worth 2k btc. you've made 20x
mircea_popescu: you buy 1k puts struck at 100.
these cost you .1 each, so you pay 100 btc
unbalanced__: BTC goes down...
the puts go up... but
they're denominated in BTC. So it's a wash. Or at least
the river meeting
the ocean?
unbalanced__: Do I buy
the puts with BTC? So even if
the puts do well,
they're just a hedge on my BTC losses?
unbalanced__: So if someone wants
to bet on a down draft,
they could buy puts.
unbalanced__: Right, I should have spoken in
terms of puts/calls.
unbalanced__: There's no "naked short selling" in BTC-land, is
there?
gribble: A market order
to sell 25000 bitcoins right now would net 2577154.7109 USD and would
take
the last price down
to 93.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 103.0862 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 13.9036 seconds
gribble: A market order
to sell 15000 bitcoins right now would net 1608242.7036 USD and would
take
the last price down
to 100.2146 USD, resulting in an average price of 107.2162 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 6.0775 seconds
gribble: A market order
to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1097486.2139 USD and would
take
the last price down
to 105.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 109.7486 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 117.75001, Best ask: 118.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24999, Last
trade: 118.00000, 24 hour volume: 81957.38870023, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 108.12679
ThickAsThieves: a few days ago, I said "When I started sharing news about bitcoin, it was worth $20.
Today it is worth $93."
Then I got responses.
Bugpowder: bitcoin
tip app for facebook looks like its happening
sedeki: has anyone done algorithmic
trading on mtgox?
Bugpowder: every
time I
think of buying more calls I look at
them and say DAMN
they are expensive
mircea_popescu: iirc
they were making plans
to have 12th online in january, still ain't happened.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 117.00000, Best ask: 117.59822, Bid-ask spread: 0.59822, Last
trade: 117.00000, 24 hour volume: 82038.36838155, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 107.93612
burnside: <Ukto> burnside: I send out an email every other week or so >> awesome.
that's about all you can do
then.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 117.80001, Best ask: 117.84400, Bid-ask spread: 0.04399, Last
trade: 117.84400, 24 hour volume: 82099.72128991, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 107.92214
mircea_popescu: so basically instead of mercury all
the
time which is silly
nanotube: i guess we can all root for goxlag
to get
to mercury :)
gribble: MtGox lag is 46.972662 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.0941326887159 AU, which is closest
to
the distance between
the Sun and edge of solar corona, 0.01 AU
nanotube: well, reason or no reason, fact remains,
there are no intermediate 'points of interest' :)
nanotube: there are random asteroids and stuff, but
they are small enough
that
they don't even have real names. :P
nanotube: so until it gets
to like .2 au, closest
thing will be .01
nanotube: hehe well, it does 'closest object'. and
there's really nothing between coronal edge (.01 au) and mercury (.39 au)
nanotube: mercury is about 200 light-seconds away from
the sun.
nanotube: because saying 'mercury' every
time it's 0 would be silly.
nanotube: heh well, it's not particularly well defined or particularly smooth... but it was a good enough number
to use as
the 'closest
thing
to
the sun other
than mercury :)
nanotube: mircea_popescu: re: sun -
the solar radius is about .005 AU, and
the coronal edge is about 2 solar radii away from sun surface, according
to my googling. so .01 AU for light
to get from photosphere
to coronal edge.
dub: and submitting a sperm sample
to Ukto
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves:
To sign up for
this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
burnside: send an email out
to everyone
that hasn't claimed.
gribble: There are currently 3243.7238 bitcoins offered at or under 119.9 USD, worth 386165.453059 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 110.3662 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 117.62000, Best ask: 117.63709, Bid-ask spread: 0.01709, Last
trade: 117.62000, 24 hour volume: 81308.33585058, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 107.65591
Ukto: yup, saw
that commin :P
Diablo-D3: 90 days
to activate your account, or
the shares will revert
to DMC ownership
Diablo-D3: hrm I
think Im going
to make an announcement
then
Ukto: theres no
total field in
the glbse page?
Diablo-D3: according
to
that number ALL accounts were activated
Diablo-D3: Ukto: I want
to know how many shares are in accounts
that were never activated
Ukto: the 11,579 is
the max your asset can have.
Diablo-D3: Ukto:
that number doesnt work because 10773 is
the number of shares after Ive bought
them back
Ukto: 10,773
total issued between bf accounts and glbse claims of 11,579 max
Ukto: held shares in bf accounts + claim accounts =
total issued
Ukto: from
the glbse page :)
Ukto: you can see
that you know
Diablo-D3: Ukto: check how many shares of DMC are held in accounts
that were never activated
gribble: MtGox lag is 126.458688 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.25342179485 AU, which is closest
to
the distance between
the Sun and Mercury, 0.39 AU
gribble: MtGox lag is 80.479728 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.161280473816 AU, which is closest
to
the distance between
the Sun and edge of solar corona, 0.01 AU
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 116.01001, Best ask: 116.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last
trade: 116.10000, 24 hour volume: 79534.66768249, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.40000, 24 hour vwap: 107.30148
jurov: so, cya
tomorrow. at 120 :D
pgp: the sun is opaque
to light. Photons do not
traverse it below
the photosphere...