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mircea_popescu: bgupta it probably managed to pull one.
bgupta: at least a min ago they were there
mircea_popescu: <mjr_> lol <<< this.
bgupta: sigh for most of that apike and drop mpex bots weren't quoting..
mjr_: you gotta love how wide this spread is
bgupta: Bowjob you referring to price or the functionality of mtgox ;)
mjr_: and they don't wait 5 minutes for an order
gribble: MtGox lag is 311.754968 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.624753465289 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
mjr_: there is a global forex market where trillions of dollars are traded every day
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.28100, Best ask: 136.99000, Bid-ask spread: 3.70900, Last trade: 136.99000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
bgupta: is it goxlag understood, and perhaps fixable by the exchange?
dub: no trades have been placed for 10 minutes
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.15805, Best ask: 139.00000, Bid-ask spread: 6.84195, Last trade: 139.00000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
TradeFortress: love the new gribble text.
gribble: MtGox lag is 521.994696 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.04607152624 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
mircea_popescu: no. i just don't want it to bubble.
bgupta: mircea_popescu: You want it back to 95?
mircea_popescu: dude i'm so impressed. the market listened. thank you!
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.83060, Best ask: 143.19999, Bid-ask spread: 4.36939, Last trade: 138.83060, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
bgupta: ah there it goes
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 140.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0043 seconds
taub: http://prof7bit.github.com/goxtool/ this is good too
gribble: MtGox lag is 563.040692 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.12832724265 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
bgupta: how can you tell?
taub: i dont trade options
taub: i'm confident i'll get my fill still in the next 7 mins, the order got sent before the big drop
taub: well, too late to catch this particular move that just happend
bgupta: or too late to buy puts?
bgupta: taub, too late too sell?
gribble: MtGox lag is 468.536678 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.938942256714 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
taub: fuck, my funds arrived, but just a tad too late
taub: now in 7 minutes lets see what happens then
pizzaman1337: too much lag to tell...
pizzaman1337: could have just been one sell though
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.22000, Best ask: 141.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.78100, Last trade: 140.22000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
mircea_popescu: on the other hand if the bot can't get price feed it won't quote
mircea_popescu: sometimes that comes a little (like, seconds) before the bot gets to put the new set in
mircea_popescu: the bot puts them in the book with an expiration time
taub: seems like my lag theory was correct
bgupta: mpex bots seem to shutdown when there is lag?
taub: i havent found out the correlation
saulimus: watch for the drop
bgupta: wonder if that is people selling?
taub: if you send an order now, it will take the lag time until it shows on the orderbook
taub: well, it means that the orderbook you are seeing right now is 3 minutes old
bgupta: lag means you don't know trades were executed until some time in the future?
bgupta: how does trading even function with lag?
taub: now its not even enough to predict future prices, you also have to predict current ones when you entry
gribble: There are currently 5051.1155 bitcoins offered at or under 155.0 USD, worth 756571.619693 USD in total. | Data vintage: 58.6891 seconds
gribble: There are currently 41207088 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10375480.9223 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.0924 seconds
gribble: There are currently 87921.054 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 7578933.5071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.7352 seconds
gribble: There are currently 25483.015 bitcoins demanded at or over 95.7 USD, worth 2825225.0196 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0062 seconds
mircea_popescu: um. i have no idea. you're the miner neh ?
mircea_popescu: so nothing over 100 is going to get bought.
mircea_popescu: <Schadenfreude> What's more interesting is where it will go to after crashing, 10ish seems too low << i can tell you that the major players will inflict at least a 1/3 punishment to the lemmings putting price this high.
bgupta: so anyone remember when it ran from 10 to 30? I think the thing that popped it was the mtgox heist, no?
assbot: The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.50001, Best ask: 145.78998, Bid-ask spread: 0.28997, Last trade: 145.79000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
gribble: There are currently 5670.2757 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 740933.924797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
gribble: There are currently 21209.86 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2410540.73085 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.5523 seconds
bgupta: well one thing to perhaps look at is how btc traded after crossing 1USD and 10USD pyschological barriers. Haven't looked too closely yet.. as I'm pretty sure marekt conditions were quite different.
taub: dont think we will go below 50 anytime soon
gribble: There are currently 5545.1177 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 819419.244866 USD in total. | Data vintage: 81.4224 seconds
Schadenfreude: What's more interesting is where it will go to after crashing, 10ish seems too low
Schadenfreude: Could crah anytime though, last one popped at 31-33ish
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.00001, Best ask: 141.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.98997, Last trade: 141.10100, 24 hour volume: 107422.54894605, 24 hour low: 102.00000, 24 hour high: 143.90000, 24 hour vwap: 117.47279
taub: but we prolly reached at top, right here
taub: what if we go to 200 today, then we're def fucking goin down hard
taub: all those people that had to get verified and wathced it soar the last week
Schadenfreude: I already made 500% profit and am all out watching for it to crash
Schadenfreude: Judging by that momentum it's going to pop sooner than later
taub: asks are getting made love to
jurov: sry that's proxy i use to read trilema
mircea_popescu: "all it takes for stupidity to succeed" and all that.
jurov: but not even satoshi can stop it this time
fdas: but you were talking about only $100 btc :P
bgupta: N vs T?
bgupta: need a market maker, to facilitate trade, and there aren't enough humans writing options
bgupta: I find it odd that the counterparty is a bot.
jurov: bgupta, it's the MPOE bot, sometimes it leaves for a while
bgupta: ah there we go, a refresh later and everything has bids and asks
gribble: There are currently 17686.764 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 3057767.60599 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0007 seconds
gribble: There are currently 27760.159 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 8382539.9052 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.0005 seconds
bgupta: a lot of these don't have a bid or an ask.
taub: whatever the command is
taub: bgupta: just multiple it by the 24h price
jurov: yes. and the spread is generally because of the risk involved
taub: oh good it wasnt at 140 then, the cli display shows it at 140
bgupta: so O.USD.C101T is call to buy at 101? why is the bid/ask range .19xxx-0.272xxx?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.03707, Best ask: 136.50000, Bid-ask spread: 2.46293, Last trade: 136.50000, 24 hour volume: 99269.33772735, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 136.75381, 24 hour vwap: 115.26807
taub: settled in bitcoins tho
jurov: and also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0 (but the opening of position is now done differently)
bgupta: is there an FAQ for the options?
mod6: haha. those are some crazy nipples j
jurov: also, tits.
taub: not quite there yet it seems
taub: tbh i thought 93 was gonna be the big one
mircea_popescu: taub yeah totally.
gribble: MtGox lag is 219.524796 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.439925233262 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
ThickAsThieves: if they are just buying in now, and amateurs, price is meaningless