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tiberiusiv: is a failure to me.
tiberiusiv: mircea is an egomaniac fraudster that wont admit MPOE has been a huge failure
tiberiusiv: theres many trades hes been cancelled out on.
tiberiusiv: hes not up all the way
tiberiusiv: by cancelling trades out
tiberiusiv: he fucked over people in here too
thestringpuller: in terms of faking tarades
tiberiusiv: but mircea has lost more in the last 60 days then his ventures have EVER made in profit
tiberiusiv: hence why he has the options bs going.
tiberiusiv: he needs to get bids in to sell into
tiberiusiv: mircea is running a textbook boiler room
tiberiusiv: um theres no one in here trading them?
thestringpuller: proof of faking trades?
tiberiusiv: everytime he sells a piece of the float its free money to him
tiberiusiv: as he owns 90%+ of the float
tiberiusiv: mircea fakes trades in order to stimulate bids for his shitty stock
tiberiusiv: in the last 60 days alone
tiberiusiv: either mircea is faking losses to steal bondholders coins
tiberiusiv: in the last 60 days alone.
tiberiusiv: his risk management is so bad that he will be out of funds
thestringpuller: they pay out pretty much the same dividends every month...
tiberiusiv: mircea popescu will end up losing/stealing more bitcoins then pirate ever dreamt of
tiberiusiv: i told everyone in here mircea_popesc the SCUM
thestringpuller: ;;later tell tiberiusiv You are a poop who has no rational statements to use because you'd rather be accusatory rather than contribute anything of value to society, like a greedy American addicted to the allure of wealth.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell tiberiusiv I have 75 btc now liquid. Soon I will have a few hundred as things grow.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!
thestringpuller: ;;tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!
thestringpuller: ;;gribble tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!
KRS-1: u mad tiberiusiv
thestringpuller: you must be the smartest person I know!
thestringpuller: intellectualism to the extreme!
thestringpuller: tiberiusiv the man who criticizes without any credentials
tiberiusiv: so doing nothing is better then that
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.31001, Best ask: 135.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 135.40000, 24 hour volume: 54369.04427953, 24 hour low: 135.48000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 141.29665
thestringpuller: I feel like the bondholders saw the puts that were sold to the bot and dropped the price...
thestringpuller: what's causing the drop?
KRS-1: Is that one dude in the background you?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.88697, Best ask: 137.12099, Bid-ask spread: 0.23402, Last trade: 137.12100, 24 hour volume: 53204.21184346, 24 hour low: 136.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 141.41656
KRS-1: its been pretty quiet til today, a bit more movement..maybe madness was overdoing it a bit
KRS-1: oh just saying how the buy/sell order volume is there but then pulled back and then there again
benkay: what's the madness, KRS-1?
KRS-1: lol this is madness today compared to lately
Framedragger: if you're going to run bitcoind on a $30 Kimsufi rented server with root password reset capabilities in your 'customer control panel', you're gonna have a hard time
Framedragger: at the very least, that way you at least may attempt to evaluate your risks, possible attack vectors etc. not with cloud hosting / whatever - parts of the hosting infrastructure remain hidden from the client (or their implementations). which generally sucks when somebody discovers that times have changed and some of those hosted machines are now storing highly valuable assets
Framedragger: in the entropy way, too..
mircea_popescu: in the burial way.
mircea_popescu: also on the long term we're all hosed
mircea_popescu: more generally, there's no guarantee.
benkay: all that said, there's no guarantee that owning your own boxes gets you anything
Framedragger: ovh is typically not really good with client communication (personal limited experience)
mircea_popescu: dialog with clients about this kind of issue.
mircea_popescu: We have been in contact with these clients but the quality of our exchanges did not allow us to get enough information that would help reveal an vulnerability on our side. Our developpers have in a completely independant way found the issue mentionned above, and only then have we realised that there was a link between our flaw and these 3 customers. We certainly have something to learn here about the best way to ensure
imsaguy: its just a matter of time
imsaguy: the minute you give that up.. you'll be hosed
jcpham: in this world, yes
imsaguy: there's something to be said about physical security
imsaguy: anytime you put something in the cloud, you're risking it
jcpham: most likely that isn't going away
mircea_popescu: no, because the btc community has more money than all the internet combined.
imsaguy: because the bitcoin community typically has the maturity of a 12 y/o
jcpham: sorry i wanted to make sense of what i read
jcpham: The OVH team researched 3 years of password changelogs and found 3 customers who had been brute-forced that way, all in the "bitcoin community"
jcpham: TL;DR: Here's what happened. When a password reset is submitted, the user receives a random URL by email containing a random 21 letter string. The algorithm used was bad, so the random string could be brut-forced.
mircea_popescu: if he didn't and nobody said anything cause sure he did... sucks to be him lol
mircea_popescu: error4733 i think it's likely too, but you know, just in case.
error4733: haha mp i'm sur davout saw that :)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell davout you seen http://pastebin.com/skGagP0X ?
Framedragger: coolcool, actually looks interesting / i get the idea
Framedragger: "The amount you risk should be twice the amount you're trading in order to keep the deal in Nash equilibrium."
Framedragger: they hired folks to harden security / rewrite things
Framedragger: i only recall one (really) major security breach, pwd / pwd hashes stolen etc. it was a long time ago, probably in its LAMP infancy days
benkay: how many times has sr been hacked?
Framedragger: yeah, i'm quite sure that at least it used to be apache + mysql + php, probably with default configs on a default ubuntu or sth. :)
Framedragger: but yeah, the agorist sentiments are at a relatively naive level if i may say so. but hey.. :)
benkay: death is a downside cost of war? i thought it was a cheap way to get rid of excessively violent youths...
Framedragger: the internals seemed like a default LAMP stack to me. but afaik this has changed. well if they're a kid, they are surely learning to scale their infrastructure/business etc. :)
Framedragger: well, SR used to run a mysqld with debugging mode enabled, so each time there was a DB error (and there were quite a few), users would get a specimen of the system's internals.
jcpham: if/when that day comes
jcpham: i'm not going to be surprised to find out SR is run by a kid
mircea_popescu: wasn't too impressed.
mircea_popescu: i saw some this morn in my digest
jcpham: i've been readinf or some time now
jcpham: matonis linked this forbes article full of DPR quotes
mircea_popescu: i just got massfollowed by all the coinz
mircea_popescu: well they forgot about me
Girlfawkesy: you forgot about feathercoins, the latest craze
Girlfawkesy: not that I think this is a good idea
Girlfawkesy: what about the gox listings?
jborkl: I just went to BTCjam , never go there
truffles: ThickAsThieves sorry, i meant to say i interpreted it that way
jborkl: numa numa was just on the radio
truffles: oh its just that you said the difficult of the thing is why youre turned off to it
jcpham: yes only three bitcoins left
ThickAsThieves: truffles, no one had to justify bitocin to me
mircea_popescu: there's three bitcoins ?
jcpham: especially the third one
jcpham: listen to some music and forget about bitcoin
mircea_popescu: usagi silve fund total nominal value ? 16 btc.
mircea_popescu: people somehow miss on this. options trade on mpex today ? 10k btc or w/e
truffles: <ThickAsThieves> anything that takes that much explaining can't be good>>>> u dont like bitcoin?