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zebedee_: Oh I
thought you had
too many. I don't have any.
Chaaang-Noi: zebedee_ im not in a bad way but i could buy some
thai baht, you in
thailand?
mircea_popescu: or if it is, it's personal rather
than cultural. i couldn't care less what some japanese dude finds beautiful.
mircea_popescu: safety is unrelated
tho, it's just a study of anatomy. can learn it a
thousand different ways.
zebedee_: I've seen others and
there's a lot lacking,
to my eyes at least.
zebedee_: Definitely helps; Japanese are
the best IMO.
zebedee_: Nothing wrong with enjoying getting
tied up. I like both ends myself.
cads: haha, for me
to set aside a slush fund just for women, now
that would be bold
cads: you're
talking
to someone
that just a year ago found
the idea of leverage very exotic, and just 6 months ago was aghast
to find out
that his financial position has sickeningly leveraged re. his student loans, and decided
to put his schooling on panic crash
mircea_popescu: you can even
tell her
this when it happens and she's all confused, "honey... here's a chatlog"
mircea_popescu: for
the record, i never met a sane mathematician who was any good.
cads: It's not a longing sentiment, since we had our issues, and she's still a
toker, and I still am sober,
thought you're probably right, it would not hurt her
to know
that I marvel and
take joy in
the high points of our relationship
zebedee_: Chaaang-Noi: I'll buy some
THB from you for BTC if you're in a bad way.
cads: not at
the
time, and not since I heard she was settling down - I was muddled up back
then, and more recently I figured she has a chance at happiness with her guy, and have wished
that
to her.
cads: I stopped hanging out with her
to get sober and start hanging out with a vocalist/painter, and
then a year later I found she's engaged - I wonder if she knows I still have sentiment.. it's not something I
thought I had
cads: maybe she was on
to
the
truth and I squelched her breakthrough!
cads: mircea_popescu: haha, you may be on
to something
cads: it's like, naive set
theory without
talking about
the axiom of choice, or
the axiom of infinity, or
the implications.. part of
the reason I recently dropped out - if
this is what
the undergraduate math degree means here, I'm not interested in it
mircea_popescu: anyway, it is my considered opinion (along with, i wager, most everyone else's)
that positively
the ONLY way
that's getting show
to be inconsistent is
cads: to her credit, her area was in
the statistics of neuronal bursting in biological neural networks, and for some god awful reason, basic logic courses at our university do _not_ adequately introduce foundational issues such as ordinals or even set
theory as an axiomatic
topic
cads: mircea_popescu: now wouldn't
that have been a sight?
two stoned college math students, disproving ZFC
cads: nd C_k
to C_k', and for some reason just wasn't getting
that _forall_ C_k
there is an x_k, and
that even any C_k'
that she could concoct would also have its own fatal x_k'.
cads: it was strange, like a cognitive blindspot - I
tried what you suggest, and a few other approaches
that I invented just during
that conversation (which have been useful in similar situation). I lost a lot of faith in her as a mathematician, but regained it in
the morning - she was chattering like a bluejay about how she now sees why she was wrong in her reasoning and why I was right: her intuition was
that you can't just infinitely exte
mircea_popescu: either way, either by producing a counter example or by actually showing
the hyptothesis
to be correct
mircea_popescu: alternatively of course, she could have proven
the continuum,
thus proving frankel set
theory incorrect,which is also good enough
cads: x_k is easy
to construct for any possible C_k
cads: yep, suppose
that C_k : N -> R is a counting of
the real numbers,
then
there exists a number x_k such
that x_k is not in
the image of C_k
mircea_popescu: by "easily provable" i mean easily showable
to
the intuitive approach
mircea_popescu: sort out all
the numbers
then show you can make one which is distinct from each on a different digit
mircea_popescu: that's easily provable
tho neh ? cantor's countability
trick
cads: we got
to isomorphism classes between ordered set, and I
tried at long length
to motivate
that
the real numbers were not countable, and she kept coming up with silly schemes
to
try
to count
them, because
to her, at
the
time, it was absolutely absurd for
there
two be
two infinite sets with qualitatively different amounts of infiniteness
cads: haha, we never did
talk about
the continuum hypothesis
cads: mircea_popescu: yeah, his name is shawn, and
they're pretty perfect for each other - each as stubborn as
the day is long
cads: the _only_ argument I ever 'won',
that girl was stubborn
cads: and
then we went
to bed, and
the next morning she was up proving
the basic properties of
transfinite ordinals
cads: I once spent 5 hours arguing with her
that
transfinite ordinals are no obviously inconsistent, against her objections
cads: hehe, lovely girl, and a smart mathematician,
the best
tit's I've ever... kakobrekla yes
cads: certainly
the men felt
that
the would not have
to answer
to rape charges due
to
the nature of
the sex play situation, and she never filed charges, and seems
to have chalked it up as "just one of
those
things"
cads: hehe, I dunno if
that constituted rape
though
cads: but
that's hardly rape, however much it may attempt
to simulate it
cads: also rape can be good if she asks for it in
that certain way :)
cads: and yet still probably cheaper
than
the loss due
to marketing and irrational consumerism, hah.
cads: it is perhaps
true
that if society accepted it
the negative impact per rape victim would go down, but
the net effect would be negative almost surely, since
the new rape-rate equilibrium would be immense
cads: mircea_popescu, you know sexual molestation is not only prevalent among females, but also among males. We are
truly animals when we allow ourselves
to be, and who can estimate
the lost productivity due
to
the social and psychological handicaps imposed by such scarring episodes of violence?
mircea_popescu: explain
to me again why people
think it should have a higher market cap
than mpoe ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google
that russian guy who went on a rampage cause
they raped his daughter
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, if your putative daughter gets raped
today your practical recourse is
mircea_popescu: you know
this is exactly how women got pregnant for most of human history ?
cads: is
this is acceptable from
this peasant father perspective?
cads: in
the
town, 11 with a janitor, and so on. You did not have legal resource in
these situations, and
the 2 men
that you secretly had killed,
they could put you in jail from beyond
the grave if you are discovered. You live in a world of unprecedented prosperity, where vigilantism is prohibited.
cads: mircea_popescu: I would be forced
to agree,
though in your writeup consider
that you are a parent with a daughter. You live in a world where
the collapse of
the viability of marketing strategies has lead
to an unprecedented increase in
the productivity and quality of life, on average. And all
that you've had
to pay is
that your daughter got raped 6
times while she was growing up, starting at
the age of 6, with her
teacher, 9 with a boy
mircea_popescu: actually ima write
this up,
the similarities line up all
too well.
cads: hah, mircea, for someone with such a pretty mouth you sure are courageous
to unleash rape on
the world
mircea_popescu: why doesn't
the rape victim "Deal with it" while all
the marketing bullshit is punished by 20
to life.
mircea_popescu: but i mean, what,
they put up signs and what, i have
to "Deal with it" ?
cads: you may be right, strictly speaking -
the problem is
that people have not yet understood
that marketing equals coercion
cads: Haha,
trading
the maiden-hood for
the consumer good.
mircea_popescu: cads
that's only going
to happen once we make marketing illegal.
cads: perhaps an incentive structure
that doesn't force
the search engine firm
to degrade its search quality in return for profits
mircea_popescu: cads by
the
time you give it
the site
title and
two words from
the page
title and it finds
two pages on
that site w/o
the words in
them...
kakobrekla: i
think
the problem is gribble aint personalized :)
cads: mircea_popescu: we need another fundamental breakthrough in search engine
technology, but soon.
Chaaang-Noi: i dont
think silver is a bad idea, but dollars from
the usa are better
cads: mircea_popescu: aha, another person
that notices
that google's performance is collapsing under
the cascade of data
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi its a joke. i
think half
the world;s silver comes from argentina
cads: thestringpuller: remember when pinkman is in rehab, convincing others
to go back out and use? Yeah, I don't
think I was ever
that bad off, lol
cads: haha, you're going
to
think me a philistine, but I've not seen
the film, despite being a pitt fan
mircea_popescu: incidentally, wasn't
that
the most adequate role for pitt ever ?
cads: thestringpuller: haha, minus
the meth
cads: mircea_popescu: I wasn't in a mental state
to attempt
to compute rational expectations at
the
time.
mircea_popescu: well
that was pretty retarded,
then. what did you
think was going
to happen ?
thestringpuller: dude hipsters suuuuck,
they are leftovers from
the dot com boom
cads: but
then I realized
that my new found hate of hipsters was just as bad!
thestringpuller: The only
time I've gone
to Las Vegas I
thought I was going
to melt, or at least my shoes.
cads: so I decided
to hate hipsters instead
cads: thestringpuller: one
time some black dudes came into my house and beat me and robbed me at gun point.
The interrogated me for an hour about where
the drugs were (my roommate at
the
time was a drug dealer - bad fucking choice on my part). In
the months after
that I found rascist sentiment from around me was
taking root in my mind very easily.