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mjr___: in fact for pretty much everyone, nice suit is all it
takes
to become invisible
to
them
mjr___: actually, i
take
that back, if you look RELIGIOUSLY arabic
they will bother you, rolex and nice suit, go on your way, sir
mjr___: if you look vagrant, or sketchy, or maybe arabic nowadays (sucks but
true)
they will probably harrass you
mjr___: millions of stories just like
that
dub: he's like 'uhh' I go oops, put it away and we keep
talking
dub: put joint in my mouth and go
to light it
dub: cop is
talkign
to me outside a party about whats going on inside, reach in back pocket for cigarette
mjr___: you could probably do it in front of
them and
they would say "really? you can't use
the bathroom like everyone else?"
mjr___: cops could give
two shits about a guy causing no
trouble who looks decently respectable
dub: I did almost
the same
thing
mjr___: that is
the world we live in
mjr___: the cop
turns back and says now what is
this report you want
to file
mjr___: the cop, and i am not shitting you,
turned his head
mjr___: and handed it
to
the cop on
the counter
kakobrekla: for
the record, mjr has white collar job.
truff1es: or
the club is paying
the cobs well
dub: yep,
tis
the same everywhere
mjr___: my friend, and
this is not a joke,
this actually happened, walked into a police station
mjr___: that have never had a cop inside in
ten years
mjr___: i'm
telling you...there are bars in nyc
that are known coke dens
mjr___: if people actually dressed nicely,
the cops would probably never even
think
to bother
them
mjr___: we have a duty
to our descendants
mjr___: thank god
this is all being logged
mjr___: yes officer, i
told him he could
take a pic of my phone for $22
mjr___: that is how we sneak under
the radar
kakobrekla: "ill pay 20
to
take a pic of your phone"
dub: I
think a bunch of suits standing around
takign pictures of each others phones is not going
to raise
to much suspicion
mjr___: i never
touched cash or drugs
mjr___: like
those ebay brick and mortars
mjr___: dub: ok,
that has some potential
mjr___: oh noes! its
the silk road!
dub: the police will assume you are a bunch of assholes from
the internet
mjr___: dub: no
thanks...i have my limits
mjr___: i
think
the key
to
that is sitting down
mjr___: kakobrekla: not
too shady for cops
to care, but cops still
there if needed
dub: a lot harder
than robbing a bank
mjr___: kakobrekla;
that is
the balancing act
kakobrekla: police will be like "ooo whats
this suspicious group of people,
they seem
to be handling cash amongs each other and
typing on
their phones, must be some sort of interweb drugs, lets bust em all"
dub: pretty hard
to controll a group
that size, coerce
them into giving up keys etc, in a busy public area with LE around
mjr___: and in an animalistic sense,
they offer protection from lone attackers
mjr___: dub: exactly
the point of
this
dub: its a lot safer
to have a larger group
than
two involved
too
mjr___: point is
there are 10-15 people meeting up in union square
tomorrow
mjr___: or sell for more
than gox offers
mjr___: or for people who want
to get a better rate
than gox
mjr___: this is for people who don't want
to use gox
mjr___: so how would you do a
transaction now
truff1es: need something other
than for me
to
trust
that a cop will come
to my aide
mjr___: your point being
that banks will never work?
mjr___: in fact, in union square
the subway station is below
the park and has its own precinct
dub: I
think its a good place if
there are police around
mjr___: they are big grassy areas...the cops are usually on
the sidewalks around
the park
mjr___: and again, you would be in
the middle of a groiup
mjr___: you would have
to walk up
to a group of people...get
them all
to hand over cash or bitcoins...all while attracting no attention
dub: you grab
the other party and run away with
them?
mjr___: your reward in
this scenario is small, with very high risks
mjr___: i would say LESS likely
than in a one on one scenario
mjr___: would you really feel like walking into a group of people and saying give me
the cash and
then running?
mjr___: compared
to localbitcoins which is "meet me in
this alley over here" (joking but it is let me meet
this guy i don't know)
truff1es: our hero gives
the guy $80, and User XYZ presses send,
the coins fly on
their way
to
their new owner.>>> what about physical security?
mjr___: if you choose
to link an address you can load
that address with coins so people know you have coins for sale and are not just bullshitting
mjr___: not what it actually does, which is say hello
to bob and show
the
time
mjr___: we are
talking specs right now
mjr___: this would be part of
the app, you can link a btc address and
the app will do a mouseover with info from blockexplorer or bitcoininfo
truff1es: User XYZ is
the one selling, and AHA he has a btc address linked
to his user profile, with one
tap, i see his wallet contains 1.2 bitcoins. >>> is
this just
to explain or is
this part of
the app
truff1es: will read in a few,
too much on my screen laggg
mjr___: this is practice
to
the former's
theory
mjr___: truff1es:
there is
the follow up piece
gribble: [19:35:11] <truff1es> getting past
the hurdle of explaining it
to
the average joe will be biggest imo
truff1es: getting past
the hurdle of explaining it
to
the average joe will be biggest imo
mjr___: I guess I will write a follow-up
to specify how i see it playing out
mjr___: once you get
this first level idea
to spread,
then brokers could deal cross exchange
mjr___: if
the app makes your life easier (address prepopulated into webwallet/coinapult) etc
truff1es: i
think i get
the general idea
mjr___: you are by default free
to do whatever you want
mjr___: again,
the app is not necessary...you are free
to show up (the fact i would say
that is only because people don't understand) and do whatever you want
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 115.78021, Best ask: 115.99697, Bid-ask spread: 0.21676, Last
trade: 115.99997, 24 hour volume: 84071.33502587, 24 hour low: 107.00000, 24 hour high: 118.85000, 24 hour vwap: 113.57700
toffoo: mjr___ i just finished your blog post, sounds really interesting, best of luck with
the project!
mjr___: anyways,
the web app will be a facilitator of
trade
mjr___: but do you really want
to?
mjr___: I added some pics of possible looks at
the bottom
mjr___: i
think i will denominate
trades in $10 bill increments...not sure, $20 is more common
to have, but also bigger size
mjr___: but
that is how prices are shown
mjr___: think a chatroom/messageboard where all messages are orders and
they are sorted and displayed a certain way
truff1es: oh its just for
the geolocation aspect
mjr___: but, you are on
the right
track somewhat
mjr___: also IRC won't have a one button solution
to
taking an order
mjr___: though i
think i will link
this
to an IRC channel as well
mjr___: (hence GPS, if you aren't
there i can't
take your order huh?)
mjr___: with cash settlement on
the spot
mjr___: ideally you can just easily see an order book and either place an order or
take an order already listed
mjr___: so project buttonwood is aiming
to solve
those issues
mjr___: they will not know necessarily what
the other 2 people bought or sold for
mjr___: they will have
to calculate how much
they are buying and selling