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benkay: can i get a reference
to
this special agent business of which you speak?
Chaaang-Noi: he was correct,
they changed
the rules
them fuick
sturles: The "Special" agent from DHS is upset because Mark Karpelles signed something which was correct when he signed it i 2010, but isn't as of Q2 2013. WTF? Inthe Soviet States of America you cah change
the rules, and
then punish people who broke
the new rules in
the past.
Chaaang-Noi: i have
three copies of 1984 in my house, and i dont have many books
Chaaang-Noi: but dwolla seems
to still be sending fiat so
they are not effected
Chaaang-Noi: well
they did not get much if any of his money
Chaaang-Noi: he is guilty of
trading money with out a permit in
the usa (while being in japan)
mircea_popescu: first
they
take all his money and make him go
through
the court system for half a decade.
Chaaang-Noi: you mean
that one guy in maryland cant do
that?
Chaaang-Noi: wonder if
they will go
to japan
to get him
to serve 5 years in jail
Chaaang-Noi: i hate gox, but what
the govt is
trying
to do is so fucking lulz
Chaaang-Noi: so, gox in 2011 check a no one a money
transfur whatever cuz at
the
time btc was not money,
then in 2013 btc became money cvuz fincen, so now
they will go after gox?
Chaaang-Noi: trust me business in asia is not
the same as in
the west
Chaaang-Noi: japan not fucking with
them meaning
they paid off
the right people (new people coming in can change
this on a dime)
mircea_popescu: <Chaaang-Noi> gox seems
to be legit in japan << based on what ?
Bugpowda: I wonder if
they are even going
to show up?
Bugpowda: ". Mt. Gox,
the largest Bitcoin exchange in
the world, and CoinLab are joining
together
to provide US and Canadian customers with a new exchange platform specifically catered
to
this market’s unique needs"
jcpham: i want my 715k shares and i want
to be paid in btc not fiat PPS
Enky: at least
they have a regular license, i'm curious
to know if mtgox is legit in japan
jcpham: yes
tell
them
they suck from me
Bugpowda: CoinLab is presenting at a DC startup mixer
tonight
Bugpowda: Wires from gox are still going
thru
though
mircea_popescu: i don;'t
think anyone seriously expected anything be better organised
than
their
trade engine.
ThickAsThieves: so
the Wells Fargo account wasnt event
the main account
Enky: i've find
the license on fincen website
Bugpowda: and forwarded
to my bitcoin investing mailing list.
Chaaang-Noi: lol how
the fuck would he evar have a girl?
Chaaang-Noi: cuz if you beat him up, and you
take it
then sure
KRS-1: Just on
the edges, he's a pretty cool dude imo
Chaaang-Noi: too bad he is so pissed off all
the
time :)
Chaaang-Noi: anyone happen
to know what retta means? just off hand if you know id like
to know
KRS-1: Alpharetta Georgia, U.S.A. (Been
there, nice place)
Enky: i dont see
that one of campbx
KRS-1: so is btc-e -> bank
transfer USD
to meh ok?
mircea_popescu: this is what your lawyers do for you during
that dd mysterious activity.
ThickAsThieves: is
there a way
to look up if CampBX is properly licensed etc
mircea_popescu: he has nothing
to sell. his engine is a laughingstock, his brand name is like enron's
maximian: Maybe he'll get a suspended sentence if he's lucky, but he'll probably have
to resign from mt. gox
kakobrekla: i dont
think legal btc in states is even possible
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves afaik
the only properly licensed exchange was bitcoion=-central
maximian: It's his name on
the registration documents
though
inhies: is anyone aware of any US exchnages
that are 100% legal?
mircea_popescu: luckily most of
the larger players had enough sense
to listen and gtfo
ThickAsThieves: is
there a way
to look up if
they are properly licensed etc
mircea_popescu: maximian he's in one of
those positions where his only practical way is finding someone bigger
to rat on
ThickAsThieves: so can anyone weigh in as
to whether CampBx might suffer
the same fate?
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 conspiracy is
the easiest
to prove, are you kidding ?
KRS-1: I believe conspiracy is hard
to prove.
Enky: wire fraud is up
to 20 yrs of jail
mircea_popescu: plus conspiracy seeing how
that'd be darn easy
to prove
mircea_popescu: Enky im sure
they're going
to
tack wire fraud in
there somewhere
Enky: - Failure
to comply with US State money services licensing requirements could result in up
to five years in prison and a fine up
to $250,000...for each violation.
The specifics can be found in 18 USC 1960 "Prohibition of Unlicensed Money
Transmitting Businesses":
Enky: Effect of non compliance with MSB State License in
the USA?
Enky: kerpeles finally going
to jail:)
kakobrekla: does japan have extradition
treaty with usa?
inhies: afaik
they havent had any major issues
inhies: cambx seems
trustworthy enough
truffles: site doesnt look
turrble at least
KRS-1: truffles: what do you
think about campbx
truffles: imo it makes a
tiny difference
KRS-1: instant
transfers
to dwolla?
imsaguy: we don't know
that
they weren't
KRS-1: mp: you are right and
thanks for
the good advice..im out of
there. Where
there's smoke,
there's fire.