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mircea_popescu: bitbet is small. asicminer doesn't practically exist. it's take it or leave it.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves as far as i can see, other than mpoe (which may well be oversold), sdice is the only investment available atm.
benkay: it's not a terribly common perspective...
mircea_popescu: you're buying into someone else's specifically so as not to have to deal with that.
ThickAsThieves: sdice is a better investment than most?
ThickAsThieves: so would you argue that with all that is known to the public,
benkay: i like that attitude, that plans are not investors business.
mircea_popescu: you want to be involved in business planning, start one.
mircea_popescu: of the 5%ish that do, 90+% file a loss.
ThickAsThieves: it take 1 year to communicate plans with investors?
mircea_popescu: most companies fail to file at all after their first year
mircea_popescu: if this is a spark but not a fire then what can io tell you
ThickAsThieves: not bury it in the dirt
mircea_popescu: sdice always was and still is the majority of rthe blockchain
davout: ThickAsThieves: you expect change when some other folks don't see the need for it
ThickAsThieves: i want to put my money to work
mircea_popescu: i fail to follow this logic.
truffles: oh its not called trolling huh
ThickAsThieves: i tried to explain this
davout: ThickAsThieves: what is it that pokes your ego ? :p
davout: what is this NAT.ROUTERS thing?
davout: let's talk about evolution then
mircea_popescu: it will behave accordingly. you want excitement, chase the vircurex ipos or w/e
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's fine but not all things are that.
ThickAsThieves: which extends to me wanting this for all things
davout: ThickAsThieves: watching things as they are is already doing something, which can bring great enjoyment
mircea_popescu: toilet paper is basically... toilet paper.
ThickAsThieves: i want to tinker, explore, develop, evolve
mircea_popescu: anyway. point being : the hammer has not grown. it is what it is.
ThickAsThieves: not all the things I can watch be as they are
ThickAsThieves: I enjoy life because of all the things I can DO
mircea_popescu: jcpham yeah, i love the sprawl too.
davout: mircea_popescu: these suction pumps do not work
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this growth thing... it often is illusory.
ThickAsThieves: i wish for it to grow
davout: ThickAsThieves: buddhism teaches us that "not doing" is already "doing" if you see what I mean
mircea_popescu: so you wish to be entertained by your portofolio
mircea_popescu: yeah but i don't think that's particularly relevant.
truffles: same ppl who give out advice to others *snicker*
davout: truffles: that's called having fun :-)
mircea_popescu: in my mind investors are making a revenue from their holding
truffles: ThickAsThieves I think youre trying to reason with stubborn ppl who are comfortable with what is
mircea_popescu: yes, pralines are dead to the us market, in the sense that the uninformed poor there don't get any.
ThickAsThieves: and investors expect a business to maintain and moreover gain revenue right?
mircea_popescu: i am persuaded louis ate the exact same thing.
mircea_popescu: this particular piece of confectionery has been unchanged since three centuries ago
ThickAsThieves: but we invest to make money right?
ThickAsThieves: nothing needs to do anything
davout: ThickAsThieves: does it need to ?
jcpham: allow players to create "accounts"?
benkay: we could actually talk about execution instead of features then
jcpham: would you like for satoshidice to add more features and a whole frontend/backend server architecture?
benkay: has anyone bothered to plot relative market share of the btc gambling space?
mircea_popescu: this attitude is what leads to creeping featuritis and general cruft.
ThickAsThieves: my issue is much more than the website to US problem
mircea_popescu: davout i'd take that as a good proxy for how valuable a website is for sdice
ThickAsThieves: you might not WANT marketing to matter or have a suitable rationale for it within yourself
davout: ThickAsThieves: like I said, someone who has a stake in this *will* put up a US accessible clone of the SD website
jcpham: well i think s.dice is dead and SD will be fine
truffles: <davout> hipsters care about features, investors car about dividends>>> disagree with that
mircea_popescu: yes you can. this website fetish...
mircea_popescu: and im not transferring the argument, i'm just not particularly interested in arguiubng about s.dice per se, i think the general point is more interesting
davout: i think sd markets itself for free on the frontpage of blockchain.info
ThickAsThieves: it's that marketing, communication, and development are important
mircea_popescu: also, the "consumer" market is unfundamental.
ThickAsThieves: my point isnt that hype is a fundamental
davout: i had the sunglasses on my forum avatar first
ThickAsThieves: but your are transferring the argument
mircea_popescu: most hyped things aren't worth the time of day
mircea_popescu: but srsly, most things worth it in this life aren't what's being hyped
ThickAsThieves: people dont seek out tv shows because they are harder to watch
mircea_popescu: there's this very american worshipping of a very particular thing
jcpham: people can watch waht they want
ThickAsThieves: you mean the vidible part?
mircea_popescu: this isn't tv tho.
ThickAsThieves: is just another nail in the coffin
davout: what makes you think that it won't make it even more attractive ?
ThickAsThieves: i'll probably end up eating my words, but at the moment i have no problem saying that i think sdice is dead in the water
ThickAsThieves: then that person has same liability obv
davout: some big shareholder should just clone the SD website and make it available in the US
truffles: drama gets the blood pumping!
toffoo: ok gotcha, thanks
mircea_popescu: toffoo there was a dump back in january i think ?
toffoo: wow .. did it hit that in this recent dump or was that from earlier?
Namworld: ~0.0008 I think
toffoo: what is the all-time low on s.dice?
Namworld: By the way... if anyone wants to sell S.DICE shares but finds there's a lack of volume to sell them, PM me.
Namworld: When's the IPO, Scrat? =P
ThickAsThieves: Scrat yyouz just tryin git me
Scrat: shows every TX as a double spend
deadweasel: ya taxes, dammit.
ThickAsThieves: someone is trying to double spend on me
mircea_popescu: just new and into high risk prop trades.
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt know how to doublespend on 0 confs
ThickAsThieves: am i that scary
ThickAsThieves: i love how people feel the need to wait for 6 confs when making deals with me
mircea_popescu: not to go into the complex points of taxation.
deadweasel: technically if all you do is take profits, it would be impossible to go broke. in a general way.
mircea_popescu: no dinky obscure fringe scam invented this.
mircea_popescu: listen. "Nobody went broke taking profits" is like saying "the rain in spain stays mostly on the plain"