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truffles: now thats a twisted way of thinking
fiat500: imagine your paranoia then
fiat500: imagine the alternative, no scammers at all, every single fucking thing is 100% legit
mircea_popescu: i think you need it to be in ripple for that.
fiat500: and then when it crashes and you default i can say scammed
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: technically, i could calculate the value of the shares i own in your AM 100PT and list that as risked BTC
Uglux: is there a theymos post about the new trust system?
mircea_popescu: it ha sexactly the lack of byte you'd expect from two lezbos named julia that failed in ny and so moved t la
mircea_popescu: i think this may be a rewrite
mircea_popescu: nah this isn't it sadly.
ThickAsThieves: i googled "sarah jessica parker new york false hope sex in the city ruined new york"
mircea_popescu: supporting themsleves on the occasional piece accepted by the occasional magazine while going shopping daily
mircea_popescu: by making a bunch of retarded midwesterner housewives think they can just move there and be "writers"
mircea_popescu: ok, i beg to the great wisdom of this channel :
error4733: wow, never saw this feature of btctalk
ThickAsThieves: i'm already fucing up the system
mircea_popescu: for that matter you could go "bitcoin is great and it happens on bitcoin-assets"
dub: the problem with bloging on the intertown is less time to blog on irc
truffles: i see that u mean well so if u do it, best of luck
truffles: just cuz ppl dont have ur level of intelligence doesnt mean u need to rub it in
truffles: i meant in the blog or book
Namworld: I wonder if SDICE will do a second plunge when there's no dividend, assuming the current trend for the month keeps up.
mircea_popescu: I ended up losing lots of BTC at BTCJam.com, thinking that loans are "safe". That's a holdover from the physical, regulated banking world. Not true here. I'm actually a fairly good judge of "character", so I didn't lose all, as I saw that many did there. But I did lose about 30% of what I loaned out. The site itself is fairly good, but the "borrowers" are often not...
dub: my peers are people that don't sit on the internet all day to pick out the good stuff
mircea_popescu: dude, it's cool but don't go to retardspots.
mircea_popescu: dub so say that.
truffles: worrying about what people think
truffles: well thats silly
dub: for fear they will type bitcoin into google and assume I am retarded
dub: bitcointalk is why I don't talk to my peers about bitcoin
truffles: well thats the internet
ThickAsThieves: this whole thread has no Trust links
ThickAsThieves: moderators cannot be Trusted
mircea_popescu: that's some prime mpoe-pr right there
truffles: bitcoin full of scamers will take down banks YAY
dub: I can say that hes a shit eating toolbag
mircea_popescu: bcb is prolific and that's the most you can say about him
mircea_popescu: so forum knows it's not really for big txs
dub: even the most prolific otc-wot users are completely retarded
dub: this is really the root of the problem
dub: <BCB> Winklevoss: are you the real Winklevoss
ThickAsThieves: wow that really was the problem
ThickAsThieves: maybe you can only leave trust every x minutes?
mircea_popescu: tell me it allows sql injections and you're going to delete the btctalk db
ThickAsThieves: i'm trying to use this Trust thing and getting a db error
fiat500: im going to wake up to AM having peaked at 3.0 arent i
fiat500: guess the correction is over
mircea_popescu: these are to date the only two tripwires the devteam managed to bumble over resulting in bitchslaping etc.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand no matter what you do you don't go into telling users how to use your output.
mircea_popescu: and i raged at the dev team for behaving idiotically. if you're blind you don't run and if you don't comprehend your code you don't add more. this on one hand
mircea_popescu: i understand your concern and honestly believe that it's being misplaced.
mircea_popescu: the sea per se is about as interesting to you as that much sand.
mircea_popescu: understand : going fishing is a process directed AT THE FISH. you don;t care about the sea.
dub: you rage against teh dev team for slowing adoption
dub: you expend signficant effort trying to educate these same noobs with angruy women
mircea_popescu: the government can then make 50000 sockpuppets, scam itself and kill btc this wya ?
mircea_popescu: suppose this reputational thing is actually a bitcoin weakness as you propose.
mircea_popescu: let's go another angle at this.
truffles: bitcoin is for the cool nerds
dub: stop trolling
dub: its abad thing for bitcoin
dub: and when the googlenet tells you which website to get bitcoin from and you go there and see highly trusted guy and he scams you
mircea_popescu: but why do we care of the fate of the braindead ?
dub: you are far more likely tp be able to recognise fake ratings
dub: as I said before, at least with otc wot you have to be slightly smarter than brain dead to use it
mircea_popescu: it's just there so you have a reference for your thoughts. it doesn't put thoughts in your head.
mircea_popescu: a trust system is a notation, like paper. it won't do your work for you in any circumstance.
mircea_popescu: dub all trust systems that work can also be gamed.
dub: mircea_popescu: trust systems that are too easy to game
ThickAsThieves: here's another angle I 'm realizing, omg there will be SO much whining when noobs get their first -1 trust
mircea_popescu: wait wut. what;'s been proven broken you mean, the wot ?
ThickAsThieves: so let them evolve it
ThickAsThieves: new conveniences then
dub: one that has been proven broken time and time again
ThickAsThieves: i dont think any of us want a world where we forgo new ideas because hopeless idiots wouldnt get it
mircea_popescu: dub true. now that taaki is maffed out
mircea_popescu: there's like... one douche that inhabits 9.95 bn of them
dub: bitcointalk is the single biggest impediment to people learnign about bitcoin
mircea_popescu: and there's like 10bn bodies on this earth
mircea_popescu: but they're different physical vessels of the same one idiot.
dub: I think we get a lot more value from a bullet delivered to theymos face
ThickAsThieves: idiots that NEVER learn
mircea_popescu: idiot person comes in. mpoe-pr tells him he's an idiot gives him a reading list.
ThickAsThieves: to add more Trust features
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i'll tell you how this goes :
ThickAsThieves: I know he needs the money
ThickAsThieves: you should be thanking Theymos
ThickAsThieves: once a noob relies on trust and gets burned enough times, guess what, he no longer trusts so easily
fiat500: dub: bitcoin has been getting a lot of attention recently, its to be expected
mircea_popescu: people gotta have their choices. there's no education w/o choice.
ThickAsThieves: is doing the educating for you
mircea_popescu: i am paying people to educate noobs. let them be scammed. both work : either follow the light or go into the shitfest
ThickAsThieves: This Trust feature being gamed,
ThickAsThieves: maybe think of it this way dub,
dub: mircea_popescu: in one breath, let teh noobs be scammed, in the next you're paying people to educate noobs
fiat500: i mean, its more likely that they are all just idiots than there being a massive conspiracy behind every thread
mircea_popescu: most idiots are still left in their original state.
mircea_popescu: she took a lot of time, the results are there, but
mircea_popescu: i have been paying top dollar for one person to try and educate legions of idiots.
ThickAsThieves: if you dont like it, go out and educate the legion of idiots