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asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo: while I weld the server shut to drop off at the colo << if you don't already own one, a very usable spot-welder can be made from the ubiquitous 1F+ capacitors sold for use with automotive 'boom-booms.'
teward: the 'nanotube challenge'... he's talking about the OTC auth system isn't he...
kakobrekla: <mdev>you're giving everyone with voice the ability to up/down voice everyone who hasn't gone through the nanotube challenge
asciilifeform couldn't resist
asciilifeform wouldn't, but likes carrying thought experiments to logical conclusion.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem as stated is unresolvable. as the future includes the past, you can't by yourself prove you were anterior to a point. only ulteriority can be proven that hardcore
mircea_popescu: blocks reorg. how do you know you won't end up on a dead chain
mircea_popescu: you can prove you know something and so establish it one way, but you can't prove you didn't know something.
fluffypony: log.b-a isn't the only log
mike_c: log.b-a or my blog still requires trust. blockchain doesn't, but i'm not a fan of abusing chain for this kind of stuff. pastebin i guess works. nobody would believe they were in on the scamz.
fluffypony: [01:15:01] mdev: your abuse won't be tolerated
mdev: bitcoin trusts no ones date, they don't use dates they use difficulty I think
mike_c: i don't think there is, but thought i'd ask to make sure i wasn't missing some clever trick.
mircea_popescu: pr isn't management is it
mircea_popescu: "Joe: No way, no way. Tried it once, doesn't work. You got four guys all fighting over who's gonna be Mr. Black, but they don't know each other, so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. Be thankful you're not Mr. Yellow."
mircea_popescu: the truth of the matter is that i don't have an actual personality, i just do the opposite of what y'all are doing.
pankkake: FlyDuch: why wouldn't you use one of the many exchanges to do that?
pankkake: I don't trust him, and I backup the otc db :)
pankkake: so I don't understand "not yet amortised"
mdev: if ghash abuses everyone will know and they'll be done, they don't control the users hardware anyway
mdev: I been banned in there a lot, in the past some ops agreed the ban shouldn't have been set but didn't do anything to lift it!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Do those peeps still have coins they aren't buring on Mastersafe and stuff like that?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aff is kinda intended for the peeps that don't even know there's something to check
mircea_popescu: To me, -10 is lke "this guy has definately stolen people's money, and is definately a scumbag you don't want to live near because he'll probably break into your home and steal your valuables" :P << maybe read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ sometime.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: this is probably the first example of the wot for +v selection failing << honestly i don't think so.
jurov: uh oh bitbet won't replace ref cookie unless user deletes it manually? pure evil
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic: your transitive rating to nano at a certain level, correct. without trust from nanotube you can't rate. << good thing they finally moved away from the total rating model, that was silly.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thebutterzone suppose you clear asciilifeform and that way i don't have to neg you too.
BingoBoingo: Prolly the ultimatum brought some action. Ultimatum or not, I just can't care about any "competition" that usually ends in a draw and hugs for everybody.
mircea_popescu: if thjat were the proposition, then it'd have been just a dumb as fuck deal. even in that case, claiming it's not a scam is marginal, much in the way adding a nuclear device to your doorknob is endangerment, even if you think people shouldn't have fucked with the doorknob.
mircea_popescu: so i bought 1/4 kg of prosciutto from this woman that i don't think has ever sold more than 18 grams at a time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't. that's a 2-layer composite photo
BingoBoingo: I just hope there isn't a dexkansas
mike_c: (unless you don't want to divulge sekurity measures)
jurov: above proposal isn't exactly an easy workaround
Ssateneth: To me, -10 is lke "this guy has definately stolen people's money, and is definately a scumbag you don't want to live near because he'll probably break into your home and steal your valuables" :P ☟︎
pankkake: doesn't change anything if you -10
danielpbarron: Ssateneth, what flies in -otc doesn't necessarily fly in -assets
danielpbarron: well if you weren't such a nobody, you'd know that asciilifeform is not "some random"
pankkake: isn't that, you know, abuse
midnightmagic: your transitive rating to nano at a certain level, correct. without trust from nanotube you can't rate.
benkay: who do S and T sock for?
danielpbarron: TBZ is like "nope i don't see it in -otc so it must not have happened"
danielpbarron: he apparently doesn't trust you; I wouldn't go as far as to give a -10, but that's just me
danielpbarron: some of my -1s actually prevent users from having voice in here, so i wouldn't call that "0 weight"
TheNewDeal: oh my gosh. can't believe someone just bet both sides on the bastille day bet with a weight of like 150
danielpbarron: idk enough about this latest thing, but you are stupid because you don't understand the WoT (according to my rating)
Apocalyptic: i don't think kako's trolling
decimation: "fluffypony: when decimation said "test" they weren't voiced, or was my client just being weird" << I actually sent "gpg unauth" to gribble before sending "test"
gribble: You rated user Blazedout419 on Sun May 4 23:13:39 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: doesn't understand the WoT; don't trust this user's ratings.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: i don't know, haven't printed anything like biz cards yet here
assbot: Michael Geist - Supreme Court Delivers Huge Victory for Internet Privacy & Blows Away Gov't Plans for Reform
Vexual: didn't mp ask someone to poster wall st?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: effective in that it can make people think about, or do, things they wouldn't otherwise
nubbins`: doesn't argentina have crazy capital controls?
asciilifeform: diametric: neato. probably should get a quote first, don't wanna waste his time
mircea_popescu: but it won't liklely be two weeks.
nubbins`: if it's just shapes/text, size doesn't really matter
nubbins`: nope, coated (shiny) papers don't print well
nubbins`: stonehenge doesn't come in cuntish
ThickAsThieves: Nintendo won't add Twitch streaming to Wii U: 'What's fun about that?' --- Nintendo rox
mircea_popescu: i guess since the dork in question can't gpg sign, i could make a pastebin too. let's have some fun
mircea_popescu: just like some dorks that meet each friday for a beer attheir pub can't just put up a sign saying "bitcoin conference hackathon and miss universe contest"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's whatreddit is for neh ? for people who can't do anything to pretend like they're doing things.
nubbins`: god, i can't even remember what scam the swede was pushing
nubbins`: if we don't CALL it shares in a mining security...
bitcoinpete: i guess i didn't read the usg sale as propaganda-y
mircea_popescu: traders talk. if they didn't, they couldn't trade. it's a complex beast.
nubbins`: but if i don't hop on the train, i'll never travel
fluffypony: no I don't mean from there perspective
nubbins`: there's gotta be at least a few financial institutions/hedge funds/whatever that want btc but don't want to purchase from a foreign exchange, guy on the street, etc
mircea_popescu: and the forumtards respond : ""If I didn't do it I would say that I didn't do it. You wrote a very long post and not one time did you say that you did not do it. To me, that says a lot! Don't bother now, it's too late.
mircea_popescu: this is why i say the thing sucks and shouldn't be used.
Vexual: i don't know slovenia from slovakistan
mircea_popescu: and so doesn't submit the winning block half the time it finds it, and doesn't care to fix his hardware.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: shouldn't you be asking Brock?
mircea_popescu: ns oh well...Great job on running the pool WK!! couldn't ask for a better pool op"
mircea_popescu: forum responds : "WOOT WTG WK!!! you teach them that messing with our pool isn't an option Great job on catching them and stopping them from getting their reward for doing nothing Finally some scammers didn't get to scam...oh how good that makes me feel...lost 21 coins to some lying cheating bastards already one was the btcrow or some website email scam..thought i was using escrow but was really sending them the coi
mircea_popescu: well the more persuasive explanation is, elegius fucked up a server upgrade (on its sole server, if you don't count an old backup box which is never live anyway), lost some user's accounts
kakobrekla: elegius deceiving users? wouldn't be the first time.
mircea_popescu: o look, it's also closing ? isn't this one of the oldest pools still (sort-of) standing ?
mircea_popescu: herpy derp. so basically don't mine with elegius and that's that.
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: i like that...i wouldn't know what to select for a proposition, though
nubbins`: wait, i thought the withholding hashes thing didn't work because of nonces or some sort of math shit
mircea_popescu: that thing is so narrow i couldn't fit any part of it in there.
mircea_popescu: speaking of negative cock thickness, so the good folk here don't fucking import condoms.
kakobrekla: now he prits t shirts.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin will succeed in the long term because i say so. not because todd says or doesn't say so. wtf is this, programmer planet, where programmers matter now ?!
nubbins`: europe isn't as bad
nubbins`: nah, don't worry about it
mircea_popescu: if you mean to try and double spend, it'd be hard for any pool to do. if you mean, the withholding to hurt the pool, it can't really, but extreme bad luck is always suspicious.
fluffypony: apparently you weren't voiced for a while
fluffypony: when decimation said "test" they weren't voiced, or was my client just being weird
mircea_popescu: punkman: do I have to put them up to my ear and tap them? << if you can't hear the tap without putting it to your ear it's not a good one anyway
Mats_cd03: ;;rate petertodd -1 writes theses about things he doesn't understand, like networking and bitcoin http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/281ftd/why_i_just_sold_50_of_my_bitcoins_ghashio/
pankkake: anyway, this kind of post is why bitcoin can't be worth $1000. still too many retards
pankkake: I don't think he understands bitcoin
fluffypony: so Tesla is opening their patent portfolio up, and won't sue rival firms who use the patented tech "in good faith"
fluffypony: "don't worry guys, I will use my rock to stop this"
kakobrekla: >>You didn't know anything.