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furuknap: Ans suddenly SDICE has made up for the 3K loss earlier this month and is now positive again. Yeah, rite...
jborkl: ripple is now down to 8200/1
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.30001, Best ask: 125.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 125.50000, 24 hour volume: 24341.11155891, 24 hour low: 122.26000, 24 hour high: 126.93446, 24 hour vwap: 125.02370
fiat500: even the title is a question
fiat500: jcpham: hrmz, that article doesn't really say anything
fiat500: just wanted to see how you'd react
fiat500: WILLdude: i was lying about that 11btc, please don't
fiat500: oh neat, jcpham who's behind that site?
aknap3: WILLdude not a stupid question, it was a window into the workings of your mind. You must not invest!
WILLdude: Well, obviously, there is no strategy to gambling.
fiat500: no there wasnt, i could have just as easily lost the 2btc i started with
fiat500: i knew you'd say that
WILLdude: Is there some strategy to that gambling?
aknap3: WILLdude: this is painful but it is good advice
aknap3: the only winning move is not to play
ThickAsThieves: which means he'll get to zero soon enough
ThickAsThieves: i think willdude doesnt realize that he is trying to spend money, not invest it
fiat500: aknap3: is that how it works?
aknap3: then turn off computer and finish school. When you graduate you'll likely be able to pay for college
WILLdude: Where's the best place to buy the new USB miners, in a quantity of 1?
aknap3: optimator: time to write a grant proposal
optimator: I'm guessing C would result in the best overall outcome
optimator: aknap3: I'd want to run simulation a) w/o beer; b) with real beer; and c) with real beer at a bar!
aknap3: optimator: it was unforgettable (no actual beer though )
fiat500: oh well, good thing im not in this for short-term bets
optimator: aknap3: I wish we played that game in my business classes
fiat500: probably a better short-term bet than COG then eh
aknap3: so their hashrate will grow massively
optimator: I'm thinking there would be a bit of inventory shrinkage
BitHub: i'm never able to go longer than 10mins
BitHub: so much easier just playing startrek movie and new judge dredd back to back and doing a shot whenever you see a lens flare
aknap3: and even if you know exactly what is going to happen, as a distributor, you have to play along. Fighting the wild swings makes things worse for you
aknap3: the customer orders are: 1, 2, 4, 8, 4, 4, 4 (and 4 for ever) but that exponential demand growth in the beginning triggers instability that lasts the whole game
aknap3: one one end you have the factory, on the other end yo uhave the consumer. in between, the distributors. the consumer places an order, and the order is passed down the line. Each participant loses money while they have either overstock or back-orders
aknap3: it's awesome -- need a group of people. Even if you have played the game before and you know all the details you can't stop the wild fluctuations in supply and demand
optimator: aknap3: how does the game play?
aknap3: I'll never forget playing the beer game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_distribution_game
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.21000, Best ask: 125.21001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 125.21001, 24 hour volume: 24212.04542808, 24 hour low: 122.26000, 24 hour high: 126.93446, 24 hour vwap: 124.99209
furuknap: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153682.msg1634673#msg1634673 <- At 20% average over 6 years (my model does that) price per AM share should be in the 1.9-2.0 range with my risk profile and ROI expecations (20%/year)
aknap3: the herd is wrong, but you have to move with the herd
optimator: it's intersting, the market approaches perfect information and still the players make what seem to be unrealistic bets
fiat500: if its something small/medium scale it isnt worth it for me to charge
BitHub: i would like to hire your services sometime
fiat500: i have in the past, the kind of stuff i do on a daily basis is a lot more complex
optimator: ThickAsThieves: I'm not saying I didn't take a profit... but damn! 2.45
ThickAsThieves: at one point i lost faith because FC kept saying they were gonna get to 12TH and never did it
optimator: And, of course, this gem https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153682.msg1633411#msg1633411
ThickAsThieves: you can probly find some posts from me badmouthing the share value too
BitHub: are you good at that stuff fiat500?
fiat500: id do it for free if i had an API... is there a realtime API?
ThickAsThieves: i might be inclined to sponsor his work
ThickAsThieves: talk to kako
BitHub: bfl and avalon should both just give up and submit all their funds and equipment to AM and beg for forgiveness
BitHub: AM should just release another device called the bfl
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 11995492.5382 based on data since last change | 12270736.4505 based on data for last three days
fiat500: BitHub: why dont u just buy them on the exchange?
BitHub: cmon fiat500 give bithub a good hookup remmeber that free btc :P
deadweasel: auction them on the forum
fiat500: who wants to buy 2 shiny AM-PT shares from me @ 2.489
ThickAsThieves: odds are there wont be any changes
ThickAsThieves: but burnside would be happy to be running his own PT
fiat500: so what was decided re: the AM PTs?
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BitHub: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 - professional.
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BitHub: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 - runs a tight ship
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ThickAsThieves: hey thanks!
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jcpham: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 3 Runs one hell of a tidy ship.
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jcpham: ;;getrating ThickAsThieves
jcpham: ;;ident ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: people that trust me
jcpham: where do i get the trust from?
jcpham: ooh i want +17 trust
furuknap: No worries, keep up the good job.
ThickAsThieves: i've got +17 trust now, can I sell those for ripples?
burnside: sadly, gotta head out. withdrawals to process and day job to attend to.
burnside: That is definitely true. The exchange lives or dies by volume.
ThickAsThieves: and neither of you wants to give up any of that sweet sweet volume :)
furuknap: Burnside, you're here! Good to see you!
burnside: yup, I'll have to have a chat for sure.
ThickAsThieves: cuz he doesnt have much to gain
ThickAsThieves: you should talk to Ukto,
burnside: TAT, only way any of this works though is if the PT on BF somehow develops a fee setup.
ThickAsThieves: thats the Gamma Fund
aknap3: burnside: sounds generous and reasonable to me
jborkl: I thought DT already said he was shutting and paying yesterday
burnside: yeah, I'd have to announce that it was closing in 6 months. let people transfer wherever they want, with a carrot (instant transfer) for people transitioning to the alternate PT
ThickAsThieves: in the end, shut down aint gonna happen unless DT stops importing too
aknap3: and I think the stockholders would approve :)
ThickAsThieves: it also says he can close the asset
aknap3: but it looks like a 30 day shutdown is perfetly fine per the agreement
aknap3: not trying to be a pain, but doesn't the stockholder agreement say we can transfer in an out?
ThickAsThieves: you will also have to do some hardcore convincing with Ukto
burnside: I think that'd be a mistake for him, but it's a definite possibility.
burnside: thing for me is that if we do that, I'd want to set a deadline where I can shut down my PT. If the goal is to alleviate the conflict of interest, there needs to be a finish line.
ThickAsThieves: and if he has to do more,