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usagi: he went with objective C to piss everyone the fuck off and think different
Diablo-D3: usagi: yeah, but its a little more complex than that
fiat500: just before the mtgox/coinlab suit news broke
usagi: and the programmers were hired
fiat500: so this might be some interesting news guys
usagi: Remember. Steve jobs was never really a tech or a programmer. He was a business jock and a socialite. Wozniak was the tech
Diablo-D3: the only reason apple made it exist is so they could do c++ api interfacing easier
Diablo-D3: fiat500: that thing is an abortion
usagi: I actually prefer C++ to objective C
Diablo-D3: I write C that way frequently
fiat500: how is this a flaw of the compiler?
usagi: And that will never make sense to me, it's laziness on the part of the compiler
usagi: But then I need to do stuff like [[car alloc] init]
fiat500: in fact, you should be using ARC and not think about that shit at all
fiat500: thats not necessarily a bad thing however
fiat500: usagi: no its not the same
usagi: but objc dot notation is not really the same thing as in c++ or java
fiat500: its quite verbose yes, but with the right completion plugins in vim/subl it becomes irrelevant how verbose it is
fiat500: thanks TAT
usagi: But on the surface of it, it's very close, feels very close
ericmuyser: usagi: that's because it is
topace: jcpham: today
fiat500: have lock, will trade
topace: but ticker stuff is all there
fiat500: (well, streaming API would be great but i can work with this)
fiat500: thanks topace thats exactly what i need
topace: need to be logged in to see the docs i think, but the ticker api doesnt require auth
fiat500: i could set up a bot in here to sit and watch but i am loathe to that idea
fiat500: topace: can i get API access to havelock tickers somehow? im building a (free) data aggregator service
fiat500: blame ThickAsThieves :P
fiat500: (what i was talking about)
fiat500: topace: but this selling is on btct
Chaang-Noi: got off more than a few around 2.7
Chaang-Noi: that is what i did last time
fiat500: its actually smarter to sell before divs are issued, usually the peak point for the price
mircea_popescu: diablo only sells to guys with hot gfs.
usagi: What purer form of bet is there than a coin toss? :)
usagi: like if its 13 to 10, bet on the 10 side
fiat500: the guy wants to buy btc, do you want to examine his motives? lol
usagi: Well, you could bet on the side with the least money maybe
fiat500: the question of why is irrelevant i think, anyway
Chaang-Noi: i see nothing wrong with allowing that bet, i find it sell however to bet on it
Diablo-D3: [10:02:03] <fiat500> Diablo-D3: if you are selling that many, would you be interested in selling 80 to a colleague of mine?ç
kakobrekla: i dont touch that part
usagi: Kakobrekla did you really allow that bet?
pizzaman1337: "Better than Satoshidice, only 1% fee."
kakobrekla: you know what that means
usagi: I was really sad that the aliens exist bet got badbetted
usagi: http://bitbet.us/bet/1/usagi-ftw/ you tell me
mircea_popescu: da fuck is that you tell me ?
truff1es: doubt thats what was meant
mjr_: i believe einstein said that
mjr_: mircea_popescu: its not just that he's smart, he is smart enough to explain it to dumb people, thats the hard part
mircea_popescu: yeah, the kid is smart.
usagi: He should. if Erik was MPOE-PR things would be a lot better
truff1es: he's difused enough of their b.s.
mjr_: which he may have made clear enough for some above average americans to understand
usagi: Bitcoin has been compared to digital gold before
mjr_: anyways, this all started because erik's talk on the attribute-based theory of money
fiat500: i thought the union was identical to the intersection? :P
usagi: mircea's biggest blind spot is that he and mpoe-pr do not understand PR at all.
mjr_: mircea_popescu: while i think mpoe-pr is very smart, i don't know if most would see that, while she brilliantly can eviscerate others ideas, rarely does she posit her own, and as a PR person, its not really her job to do so, but rather to point at others who have done
mircea_popescu: next can we pick the bitcoin mohhamed ?
mjr_: while amir just kinda looked his usual way, though maybe better than last time i suppose
mircea_popescu: so it's not the "smartest five fags in btc"
mjr_: because i said that jon matonis, trace meyer, or erik would have destroyed that ed guy
mjr_: LOL, it came up specifically due to amir taaki's interview
mjr_: who is the 5th
mjr_: thats two tech guys, two business/finance guys
mjr_: and it was only my opinion as one guy who has observed, but yeah, gavin probably gets one of the spots, mike hearn too
mircea_popescu: i dunno how he manages not to explode, drowned in a barrel of idiots
mjr_: i haven't actually come up with the other 3 yet, but they obviously exist
mjr_: mircea_popescu: i just said that erik voorhees, and you are in my opinion in the top 5 smartest people in the bitcoin space
usagi: oh I should tell you that mircea has had me on ignore for almost an entire year so he doesn't know what I said
mircea_popescu: im in the who ?
usagi: That has to count for something :>
mjr_: just the people who are very impressive to one internet nobody
mjr_: and haven't listened to enough to make my own judgement, though it is just my opinion we are talking about
usagi: i'm not top 5 material.
ericmuyser: mjr_: or they like teh hashish
mjr_: but yes, mircea_popescu is in the top 5
mjr_: i actually think the dumbest people in the bitcoin space have to be a little smarter than the average american when it comes to economics
usagi: mjr said you were in the top five smartest people in the community.
Chaang-Noi: i sold all mine TAT sorry
Chaang-Noi: from just what we mine, at this level i think its .016ish per share so really over .02 next week should not be all that hard
ThickAsThieves: can anyone confirm to me if they got their TAT.AM divs on BTCTC?
usagi: Oh of course, it won't last forever, the market knows that or it would be 4BTC now
Chaang-Noi: unless we get up to 45% of the network
fiat500: next week is going to be worse
Chaang-Noi: he takes 5% or so
ThickAsThieves: Dividends for TAT.AM shares are all paid out except for BTCTC, which is scheduled. Payout is 0.00025211 per share.
mjr_: because the currency if not actually standing in place for something else that you want, is really worth nothing
mjr_: because like midas, it becomes worthless to have all of something
mjr_: anyways, this is why hoarding will never work as a long term strategy
kakobrekla: the touch was reversed and he could buttsex his daughter again
kakobrekla: i just watched a scam ending then
mjr_: but whether he lives or dies, the gold touch was a curse not a blessing
mjr_: its a myth, it has a ton of different endings i'm sure
usagi: According to Aristotle, legend held that Midas died of hunger as a result of his "vain prayer" for the gold touch.
usagi: i didn't read about that