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Chaang-Noi: however i just did not
trust him from
the start, when he was a n00b he was
triny
to get me
to do a odd no escrow
trade
jurov: TF posted
the pic, hence he's a hacker... impeccable logic here
Chaang-Noi: i assumed he was a scammer from
the start
Chaang-Noi: its a love ahte relationship, but he should NOT be
trusted
Chaang-Noi: he should not be admin and involved in
the goings on like selling glbse stock on inside info
usagi: too young
to run bitcointalk.org
usagi: I don't
think
theymos abuses his power, I just
think he is naieve. He's young.
Chaang-Noi: if you dont want
to be banned as a
troll like me, yes
jurov: so, i should do "imo", "imho" but you don't need
to?
Chaang-Noi: if you want, go in
that
thread and say
theymos should be
trusted and i wont be able
to defend
Chaang-Noi: can i prove
to everyone
theymos should not be
trusted? no i cant, can you prove
to everyone mpex is
trusted? no you cant
jurov: now i'm aware
that if i say "mpex solved something" it may stroke some people against fur. good
to know.
jurov: i don't feel much need
to defend myself. i wanted
to understand.
Chaang-Noi: just cuz i
troll does not mean you dont
jurov: "Theymos has been involved in more
than one scam and has abused his power." << so
this is a fact
too?
furuknap: <Chaang-Noi> i would hate
to see
the home made porn you guys might evar make < If
there ever was a valid reason for censorship on
the interwebs...
Chaang-Noi: "thus solving
the
third party problem."
Chaang-Noi: "MPEx allows you
to market make,
thus solving
the
third party problem."
jurov: so you are implying i said
they solved it absolutely?
Chaang-Noi: if we are
talking about who should be
trusted more,
that is not
the same
Chaang-Noi: you did not say better
than, you said "solved"
jurov: they solved it clearly better
than
theymos
jurov: yes.
to rephrase: "MPEx and Bitfunder established
themselves as
trustable enterprises
to solve
the
trusted 3rd party problem."
Chaang-Noi: "MPEx allows you
to market make,
thus solving
the
third party problem."
Chaang-Noi: yes, im sure you
think you are not wrong
jurov: but, from my POV, i was not wrong
too :D
Chaang-Noi: for you
to
think i am wrong is just silly
Chaang-Noi: you said he solved
the problem, and i said he did not solve
the problem for all
jurov: where did i say mpex isn't a
third party?
Chaang-Noi: everyone will see he is a
third party
that needs
to be
trusted or not
Chaang-Noi: oh man, you must be brain dead or
trolling
Chaang-Noi: he was
trying
to pick
theymos as a
third party,
that guy, i guess you, said mpex was not a
third party and
thus did not need
to be
trusted,
that is 1005 wrong
jurov: but you seem
to reject both answers
jurov: either
the
third party problem is fundamentally unsolvable(but
then why bitch about it?)... or it can be solved by choosing
trusted
third party.
Chaang-Noi: if you do not see him as a
third party you do not see my point
jurov: as i said, no mood
to flame, especially when i don't see your point.
Chaang-Noi: i will stand by my claim mpex is a
thrid party
jurov: i'm not sure who looks like a fool
there
Chaang-Noi: lol yeah, i made you look like a fool on
the forum
then
jurov: yes i proposed
to solve it using mpex as
trusted party.
Chaang-Noi: however i advised people not
to
trust
theymos
Chaang-Noi: all i said is
that
there was a problem
jurov: lol, so now i'm
to
trust everyone?
to prove
to you i solved my problem or what?
jurov: <Chaang-Noi>
then you are okay with you
trusting me as
the
third party? << how does
that follow?
Chaang-Noi: well if people
trust
the
troll box might as well
trust mpex
ericmuyser: that's becuase a
troll is programmed
to say
that every 30 mins
KRS-1: i didnt believe him lol goddamn
trollbox
KRS-1: somebody in
troll box around 6AM EST
told me
this was coming
Chaang-Noi: and even so, he claimed
there was no
third party
Chaang-Noi: then you are okay with you
trusting me as
the
third party?
jurov: choosing someone
to
trust is
the solution, not
the problem. unless you want it
to be so.
Chaang-Noi: like i said, you
trust
the 3rd party, but it is still a 3rd party
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jurov: mpex is
the solution for me. so for me it has a solution. for you it doesn't have a solution. problem solved.
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jurov: so
then
the problem is unsolveble for you anyway and you're just FUDding
Chaang-Noi: he claimed 3rd party
trust was solved by using mpex,
that is 100% wrong
jurov: hm, so you want someone who everyone can
trust? only
then will
the "problem" be solved?
Chaang-Noi: you
trust him all you want, but
the rest of
the world might not
Chaang-Noi: that guy claimed mpex solved
the 3rd party
trust issue, and clearly
that is not
true
jurov: yes you only stated FUDdily
that
there is some "trust problem".
Chaang-Noi: however all i said in
that
thread is
that
there was a 3rd party
Chaang-Noi: but yes, i dont
trust him, i would have let him sell short my AM at .8 if i
trusted him
jurov: you could clearly write
that *you* don't
trust him.
that was what i actually understood, but it was very unclearly written
Chaang-Noi: well you clearly
trust him, but not everyone
trusts him
jurov: i don't get you. of course mp is
the
third party. and?
jurov: how does it not solves
the
trust problem?
Chaang-Noi: how is he not
the
third party
to be
trusted here?
Chaang-Noi: The
third party is Mpex,
this does not solve
the
trust problem for all. "
Chaang-Noi: he said mpex solved
the 3rd party
trust issue, i just said mpex was
the 3rd party being
trusted
jurov: so mpex can't be
trusted either, how else should i understand it?
jurov: you wrote:
The
third party is Mpex,
this does not solve
the
trust problem for all.
Chaang-Noi: my
target was
theymos, you are going
to defend him?
jurov: well,
to everyone
their own. am in no mood for flamewar her nor in
that
thread.