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pankkake: after you manage
to sell
the XRP for BTC IOUs, you send
the BTC IOUs
to
the bitstamp deposit adress, and
they'll appear on bitstamp
pankkake: I'm
trying
to find
the way
to do it again…
pankkake: there is a market, it appears after adding
the gateway
pankkake: yeah
that's not how you do it. at least bitstamp sends
the XRP back, some might not do…
pankkake: it happens. you can change
the server somewhere. replace s1.*** by s2.****
pankkake: if
there was not a way
to get free BTCs, I would not have bothered
pankkake: it's very unintuitive,
though
the ideas underneath aren't
that bad
pankkake: but you can use
the bitstamp gateway in ripple client
to sell
the ripples
Scrat: ~7btc if you got
the 40k xrp
taub: total bs I
thought i had it written down
taub: how much are
the ripples worth
they give out for free on
the forum
Vbs: ThickAsThieves: "Microsoft expressed wariness about some of
the president’s plans." hahaha
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 15639150.6964 based on data since last change | 18342597.8578 based on data for last
three days
truff1es: he had
to build is own battery !
truff1es: kinda want bitcoin
to be somewhat like
that, since its a
tad more "fair"?
truff1es: *Black Mirror(2011)* eps called Fifteen Million Merits: In a bleak,automated future Britain Bing is one of millions who pedal exercise bikes
to create energy as a living.
Their currency is merits,tokens with which
to buy food from vending machines and which can be increased or decreased according
to which shows one watches on giant
television screens.
truff1es: unfortunately couldnt see myself in controlled environments like
that..
truff1es: i
think i wouldve been a great interrogator
mjr_: but i'm also good at actual
things...gotta be something under
the bullshit
truff1es: i
think most ppl have a certain level of competenance
that u might discredit
mjr_: since you can't disprove
those statement
mjr_: hence
the fluff,
the qualifiers,
the hedging
mjr_: i don't
think
they have a firm idea of what
they "mean" usually
mjr_: lol...you give people
too much credit
truff1es: if only ppl just said what
they meant less confusion would occur
truff1es: ive learned
to
tone down my bluntness
mjr_: after all, what is "it" really
that we are even discussing
truff1es: ive always had
trouble adding fluff
mjr_: while it may be
tempting
to view
things in
that light, i can't stress enough
the importance of keeping in mind
the following
truff1es: top comment from a video on "The Greatest Mind of
the 20th Century" being Buckminster...
mjr_: well, what i
think everyone should remember, at
the end of
the day, is
that even
though it may be beyond
the scope of
this discussion, and i'm just being honest here...
truff1es: "She sounds like me when I write my course work. 10% point, 90% placeholder words
to stretch
the shit out of
the content." so funny
truff1es: i'll
take 10 in my btc addy
thanks
truff1es: i got a hurt
tongue from bite marks
though
furuknap: You clearly don't understand what you're arguinng against, so I'm going
to sleep instead. Good night.
furuknap: Yeah, I saw
that 50 people got 2+2
to be 5. I reviewed
their data,
they had
two plus
two on one side and five on
the other. Must be right,
then.
furuknap: And again you demonstrate
that you don't understand
this...
truff1es: u know check
theory and practice
furuknap: Anyone opposed? Otherwise, from
this day forth,
the cube root of 81 is 3. All hail!
furuknap: I vote
that
the cube root of 81 is 3!
furuknap: My math speaks directly
to
this, and answers
the question simply. If you have other numbers
that show something different,
then I beg you
to present
them. Changing
the problem isn't going
to help;
that's like saying 2+2=5, but only if I really meant
to subtract one at
the end.
furuknap: No, but every other statement you make reveals your emotions about
the
topic.
That's my point. Run
the frigging numbers.
The problems is extremely simple: In a situation where you mine, what yields
the most profit of a price decrease or a price increase?
truff1es: despite my use of
the word "fond" earlier i didnt mean
to invoke feelings
furuknap: Not if you understand what you're
trying
to figure out and you want
the
truth, not whatever you feel is right.
truff1es: well
thats what id guess any debate would be on
truff1es: the setting up of
the problem is
the issue
truff1es: i dont
think anyone has any issues or difficulty computing arithmetic
furuknap: Yeah, you seem
to be making fuzzy statements all
the
time about feelings and imagination and love and peace and crap. Prove
the fucking math wrong!
truff1es: id imagine ur style makes it difficult
to argue a point
furuknap: Red herrings are abundant from people who
try
to argue something
they don't understand or when
they get angry because
they feel
the numbers attack
their pride.
furuknap: I've been begging people for weeks
to prove me wrong and all people are doing is arguing semantics of whether I can prove
that
they bet anything or
that A+B=C is completely different if
the letter are G+D=L.
furuknap: There's no
tunnel vision here. It's 2+2, with slightly different numbers. Basic arithmetic. But
the implications make you feel something you don't like, so you object
to it.
That's fine, but it still doesn't change anything.
truff1es: well, im going
to read it again at an arbitrary point in
the future & see if i can get u
to remove
that
tunnel vision on
this
topic or antoher : )
furuknap: The underlying problem here is
that people haven't done
the math.
They
trust in numbers but don't understand
them. So, when people
tell
them, in words
they do understand,
they get hurt because
they feel stupid.
That's fine.
Their feelings are
their problems, not mine.
truff1es: i dunno, as many as u
think is sufficient
furuknap: It doesn't matter. How many
times do I have
to
tell you?
truff1es: well ure content with
the way u present
this idea it seems..
furuknap: Look, no matter how I present
to you
the numbers,
they won't change. If you don't understand
that, you'll goon
thinking
that investing in mining is a great idea if
the prices boom.
furuknap: And at least you still don't understand
the math.
furuknap: OK. If we say
that A=100 and B=10, what is A/B?
truff1es: we gather
that a calculator can can answer
those divisions
furuknap: OK. Good. Keep
the calculator up.
furuknap: OK, so use a calculator
then. What is 100/25?
furuknap: Point? It's a simple question. Do you not know
the answer?
furuknap: C'mon, you don't need a calculator for
that...
truff1es: how about if i request for an alternative way for u
to present
the same idea?
furuknap: What strikes me most about
that particular article is
that for a community
that places so much faith in numbers, people get pissed off when
the numbers
tell
them something
they don't like.
truff1es: meh i dont like arguing of
things im lacking knowledge in hehe
furuknap: Then cry
to your mother. I don't care,
the math doesn't care,
the statement is still
the same, and your feelings or understanding of it is irrelevant.
furuknap: Your certainty is also irrelevant. Prove
the math wrong.
Tell your girlfriend about your feelings.
truff1es: im not sure if
thats how
things are..
furuknap: I do'nt care what you're fond of.
That's your feeling and
that's about as relevant as
the weather.
furuknap: The statement is simple: Mining is vastly more profitable when prices drop.
That's been proven, yet people are hurt
that
they
thought
they wold get much richer if prices rose.
truff1es: well i wasnt fond of
the setup for
this problem
furuknap: It's stll not fuzzy, it's just
that people put
their feelings of having made
the wrong choice into
the mix. If I always felt
that 2+2=5 and people point out
that I'm wrong, it doesn't help if I'm hurt by
their words.
truff1es: what im arguing with u is
that although calculations may be correct, maybe
the problem isnt set up in a way
that is 100% right
furuknap: You could say
the same
thing about 2+2=4. Can
that be wrong if you don't factor in parameters?
furuknap: I couldn't because
those factors aren't relevant and doesn't change
the math.
furuknap: What I wake up
tomorrow, LTC will finally be more profitable
to mine
than BTC. Again.
truff1es: <Chaang-Noi>
taking a website down will not close down a site operating in russia >>> but isnt
that how
the hunt begins, im guessing more is
to come