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ColdHardMetal: b0n1 theres a bitcoin-market channel with streaming price data if that's what you mean.
b0n1: is there a btc transactions stream?
ThickAsThieves: fyi i am traveling and will be less available for a few days.
gribble: retracement target: 120-124 | #bitcoin [Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:42:41 +0000] | tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/139er6E | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle | updated by OneFixt | 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 52 seconds ago
kakobrekla: hey mjr_ , not much, continuing to be disappointed in the btc retarded community
mjr_: down to 110...
kakobrekla: fyi its ok to steal, if you are doing it small enough.
deadweasel: error4734: try silk road
error4734: ;;eightball less than 100$ ?
potatoad: Anyone know how I can find hashrates for the mining corps?
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 18597051.0226 based on data since last change | 18731247.738 based on data for last three days
furuknap: zebedee_: Here's some background on what happened in Norway in the banking crisis. Sounds oddly familiar, doesn't it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988-1992_Norwegian_banking_crisis
furuknap: Seems the kid has run out of sour grapes, and I still haven't made it to bed.
KRS-: Hold the chocolate covered Wasps
ericmuyser: ya i used the working holiday visa
ericmuyser: or australia, chain the summers
ericmuyser: goin back to van this december
ericmuyser: god had to take a piss, MAKE IT RAIN!
zebedee_: Yeah march-April the cars are coverd in sandy stuff after it rains.
zebedee_: Not that I'm married to a Japanese; slight slip of the "also" there.
ericmuyser: rains too much here too lol, and so windy.. apparently sand from china blows in wtf
zebedee_: Visiting an ex-colleague also married to a Japanese who moved to Seattle in '99.
zebedee_: heh; I was there last Dec. On my travels :)
ericmuyser: visiting the girlfriend
zebedee_: ericmuyser: You got it. What are you doing in Tottori?
zebedee_: Provided you're willing to eat Japanese food.
zebedee_: Lunch and dinner can be superb value, even in Tokyo, compared to most western cities.
furuknap: Tokyo is about as expensive as Oslo. Slightly cheaper on some thing, more expensive in others. Now I have to go to bed.
zebedee_: The hardest thing about learning Japanese is getting to the stage where your Japanese is better than the other person's English. Once you achieve that, they'd rather speak in Japanese as it's easier, and then you get better quickly. At the start it's hard because your language is so shit no-one wants to talk to you in Japanese.
ericmuyser: I haven't been to tokyo, elaborate!
zebedee_: KRS: not just that :)
KRS-: Japan is cool plus they have cute females there that do the whole Hello Kitty cosplay thing
zebedee_: Japanese is easy once you get used to it :) Took a while tho.
ericmuyser: it's expensive and the language is balls hard
KRS-: seriously though, where are you going to go once you get there?
zebedee_: Japan is expensive. That's the only downside.
zebedee_: 14 years total, but only 8.5 consecutive. 2nd time here.
zebedee_: It's the optionality of permaent residence that I like - gives more freedom of choice.
ericmuyser: zebedee_: 10 years total?
zebedee_: New one will be a 5 year visa; should be able to get permanent residence once I get that.
KRS-: only worked half the year for a while it was nice.
zebedee_: Yeah work visa, expires in September so I needed to do sthg.
zebedee_: But yeah the bank balances are dwindling.
KRS-: zebedee: I did that before Obama was head idiot in charge, I was an I.T. consultant.
zebedee_: ericmuyser: I had a well-paid job long enough that I've got savings.
KRS-: I want one of them it comes with secks.
zebedee_: But mostly to get a visa again. Don't absolutely need a job, but it greases various wheels.
zebedee_: By choice though :)
ericmuyser: ah haha who hasnt taught english in japan? so many ESL
zebedee_: Hehe. My sister taught English there 7 yrs ago
ericmuyser: i'm in tottori now
furuknap: That would be sad. We saw some amazing gardens when we were there.
furuknap: I saw the space thing up close. It's insane, but I have to admire the space efficiency of their solutions.
furuknap: Yeah, I spent a few weeks in Tokyo last winter (2011-2012). Too foreign for me.
zebedee_: Starting to affect the property value I'm sure.
zebedee_: Knocked down the one next door. Putting up 3 in its place. Sigh.
zebedee_: Rural areas, and the edges of Tokyo that were booming in the bubble 25 years ago, are really hurting now though.
zebedee_: Where I live (central Tokyo) they're squeezing ever more people in a smaller space. If you only observed central Tokyo, you'd swear the population was rising 5-10% a year.
furuknap: Yeah, I think we own most of Japan too.
furuknap: Not sure how long I can keep that rate up, though.
zebedee_: Japan's doing that all by itself with radical success.
furuknap: My new slogan: "Diminishing the population of Norway, one citizen at a time"
furuknap: OK, so that was slightly exaggerated. We've just passed 5 million. One less now after I moved.
furuknap: FFS, we own almost 2% of all US publicly traded shares. More in Europe and slightly less in Asia. For a population of just over 31, that's a frigging miracle.
zebedee_: My views on economics and politics have changed completely in the last 3 years. Predates my discovery of BTC by about 9 months; BTC only accelerated it. I think that slowly, more people are waking up.
furuknap: It looks like it is a fairytale but the truth is it is Norway is just lucky. No skill, no abilities, no genius. Just luck.
furuknap: By substantially, I mean to the extent that when the rest of the world was shitting its pants, Norway relying solely on exporting over-priced stuff to those countries, shrugged its shoulders and just kept going.
furuknap: The fractional reserve thing, among other things, was tightened substantially, like it is now being done in the rest of the world.
furuknap: That's because we had our crisis in the 90s and fixed the system. When the erst of the world fell, we went about out daily business, reading about it in the rest of the world like if it was a minor flood in china.
zebedee_: How so? If it's still based on printing money and fractional reserve, it's just a slightly shinier turd.
furuknap: Yeah, but the thing is, the system Norway implemented works. Banking in Norway is decades, literally, ahead of other international banks.
zebedee_: It's the system that's broken. Banking crises are always only a matter of time; they're part of the system. We need a new system.
furuknap: We had our crisis in the early 90s, though.
furuknap: Comparatively, Norway has had the biggest fuckup in banking in history. We lost far more per capita than the US did during the 2009 bust. Thus, we have the same rules and regulations the rest of the world is now adopting to guess what, we weren't affected by the financial crisis either.
zebedee_: Japan's always worked hard. They've been screwed over by the banks, pols and company heads.
furuknap: Heck, we even pay women to fuck here, as long as they get pregnant after a while. It's silly, really. they get tens of thousands of US$ to have a kid. Who the fuck can afford such ridiculousness?
zebedee_: Well looking at France, the US and the UK, I'm not so sure. Time for a wakeup.
zebedee_: Nothing for 67 mins, then 4 in 7 mins
furuknap: Well, the west doesn't have the luxury of sitting on its asses doing nothing for 200 years more. Norway has, and its population is getting used to it.
zebedee_: blocks are like buses - never come, then all come at once
zebedee_: Last time I used it outside work was 1997
zebedee_: Having gotten used to real O/Ses, I could never go back to winders.
zebedee_: Chaaaang-Noi must have decided to cash in some AM. :)
zebedee_: I think that's true of all the west now, sadly.
furuknap: They aren't. They're building a country of lazy, spoiled brats.
zebedee_: Join the EU?
zebedee_: Norway? So how are your pols gonna screw that one up?
furuknap: Want to know the next big thing after oil? Nuclear power. Clean, safe nuclear power. To get that, you need Thorium. Guess which country has the third largest Thorium deposits in the world..?
zebedee_: I'm happy - been 65 mins since a block, and this time I'm not waiting on it!
furuknap: We have three location based resources; oil, fish, and our coastline, which resulted in massive oil industry, fishing, and shipping. Oil is a diminishing asset, we've all but over-fished our coastline, and shipping has had to move out due to ridiculous taxation.
zebedee_: Hmm, I thought Norway managed its finances well. Sovereign wealth fund and all that. All the UK did was blow it. On hookers and drugs, or sthg equally ephemeral.
furuknap: We have no innovation, we have one of the highest tax rates on the planet, and we have an attitude of hurting entrepreneurs because they're not following the pattern. Hence, I moved.
furuknap: No, we didn't. We had a lot of politicians who had oil and thus screwed the country over. We have one of two companies in Norway of any size that isn't big due to location.
zebedee_: furuknap: re Norway, like my country you had oil wealth, my country squandered it. You apparently had one or two politicians with some integrity.
furuknap: Haha, that kid is really sore...
Namworld: and I'm totally not serious...
Namworld: I'll turn them into 480 BTC > 821 BTC > 4217 BTC > 5 BTC > 3590 BTC > 0 BTC. In a matter of 1 day!
Diablo-D3: and they're kinda useless sitting there
Chaaaang-Noi: supernode sent me some funds, that was good
Diablo-D3: Chaaaang-Noi: are any of the US exchanges still not requiring docs?