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ThickAsThieves: yes, the BF people claiming ti be scammed,
Chaang-Noi: if you use it for different things fine, like garr to run cog, and warner to troll whatever fine, but to bid in own auctions and that shit, yeah more than icky
jcpham: kinda makes me think the person has a mental issue
jcpham: catching someone with a sock account just seems icky to me
Chaang-Noi: i have the TyGrr-PR account but was only used once and to troll my gox
ThickAsThieves: claiming to be scammed
Chaang-Noi: he has more than one accounts and is even try to say he is garr255
Chaang-Noi: svbeon is a troll
mircea_popescu: seems there's a rash fo these
Chaang-Noi: even if the averages is only like 30% invested returned weekly
Chaang-Noi: you ahve to admit 50% of money invested a week is pretty solid
Chaang-Noi: it makes ,4% a month? it has made over 50% a week at times. oh... you did not buy at the ipo price i guess....
mircea_popescu: well it makes ~.4% a month and some people argue that it does have a future, that they have a way out of the commodified market tarpit and other things.
Chaang-Noi: how is it poor? do they not have the most money in all of btc land?
kakobrekla: how is this not followable
kakobrekla: im not arguing that
Chaang-Noi: i dont know, but it has made me enough fiat to buy a ghetto
kakobrekla: that whole thing is too much of a ghetto
mircea_popescu: more money is teh solution
kakobrekla: its too late from doing things correctly from the begining
kakobrekla: 6) As risky as it is to invoke the name of Litecoin (LTC???), we must apologize for not keeping everyone up to date. The fact is that the current situation means a continued delay, but for good reasons. We’re looking at July right now, though that depends on a few things. Mainly, we want to do things correctly from the beginning.
kakobrekla: ok this one is rich too
kakobrekla: say that we made a difference in sorting it all out in the early days. New exchanges, business models, merchants, traders, and consumers are rising up to innovate and create a whole new way of doing business. A lot of lawyers are getting new cars in the meantime too.
kakobrekla: ) Mt. Gox is certainly not a martyr, but it would be hard to argue that we aren’t "taking one for the team" as far as Bitcoin is concerned. We are a big target, and are absorbing the frustrations of Bitcoiners, regulators, banks, and a media that still doesn't quite understand what Bitcoin is. This is a job we are happy to fill, and not just because we are compensated for it. Our hope is that, once Bitcoin finds its place, we will be able
Chaang-Noi: i guess the market thiks it is real
Chaang-Noi: https://www.facebook.com/MtGox/posts/484532824964463 i dont do facebook is this real??
mircea_popescu: “Americans remind us for cutting short the propaganda of sodomy among minors and at the same time they stick their noses into personal correspondence of tens of millions of citizens”, Zheleznyak said.
ThickAsThieves: maybe i'll make shirts that say 2 Weeks, Bro
ThickAsThieves: it's kind alike bitcoin's "the check is in the mail"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it is the future horizon of bitcoin management as a collective.
jcpham: bitcoin business are amazing things in general
ThickAsThieves: and they already said USD suspended for 2 weeks
mircea_popescu: a they did ?
mircea_popescu: im not sure you're allowed to be a bitcoin scam w/o that.
ThickAsThieves: they did tho
Scrat: I doubt that wire transfers go through an API
mircea_popescu: oddly enough they didn't say the two weeks (tm)
ThickAsThieves: well that's why it's such a surprise to everyone
mircea_popescu: "this has been going on for months. while we'd have loved to follow mp's example and give notice of events ahead of time (such as for isntance http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-the-interest-of-full-disclosure-failed-social-engineering-attempt-and-0day-vulnerability-in-betadesk/ ), it was sudden for us as well."
mircea_popescu: "japan's 2nd largest back was struggling with our volume. they handle paychecks for all of japan fine"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that was uniquely retarded.
ThickAsThieves: the TLDR of the Gox post = We are victims of our own success, you're welcome. Litecoin coming in July, maybe.
Jezzz: dunno. wasn't my turn to watch him.
ThickAsThieves: While not the most in-depth update we'd like to give, we hope that it has at least clarified a few things. In the next few weeks we are planning to do another AMA on Reddit when we’ll hopefully be able to answer many more questions and also shed some light on what’s been going on at Mt. Gox these past months. Thank you for your patience and support.
ThickAsThieves: 7) The new trading engine is finished, is smokin’ fast, and is currently undergoing bench tests. We’re looking forward to deploying it very soon.
ThickAsThieves: 6) As risky as it is to invoke the name of Litecoin (LTC???), we must apologize for not keeping everyone up to date. The fact is that the current situation means a continued delay, but for good reasons. We’re looking at July right now, though that depends on a few things. Mainly, we want to do things correctly from the beginning.
ThickAsThieves: hope is that, once Bitcoin finds its place, we will be able to say that we made a difference in sorting it all out in the early days. New exchanges, business models, merchants, traders, and consumers are rising up to innovate and create a whole new way of doing business. A lot of lawyers are getting new cars in the meantime too.
ThickAsThieves: 5) Mt. Gox is certainly not a martyr, but it would be hard to argue that we aren’t "taking one for the team" as far as Bitcoin is concerned. We are a big target, and are absorbing the frustrations of Bitcoiners, regulators, banks, and a media that still doesn't quite understand what Bitcoin is. This is a job we are happy to fill, and not just because we are compensated for it. Our
ThickAsThieves: 4) Every customer’s funds are safe, sound, and accounted for. In fact, in our dealings with the Japanese financial regulators we have been assured that we are not under local pressure or suspicion and can operate as usual within normal legal frameworks.
ThickAsThieves: its ability to transfer fast and securely through software, the rest of the financial world does not operate like that (contrary to popular opinion). Money is surprisingly analog in many ways, and scarily digital in others.
ThickAsThieves: 3) Our previous release was rather vague, but for a reason. Mainly, we don't want to upset our bank! They do great work, but our kind of business is completely new to the banking industry. Processing international wires does not just involve pushing a button. It requires real manpower processing everything individually, even in this modern computer age. While Bitcoin's power lies in
ThickAsThieves: We announced a suspension in order to manage expectations while we deliver at a temporary reduced rate. Our goal is to have a new system set up in the next weeks with clarity for both the banks and for our customers.
ThickAsThieves: 2) We are now working with new banks and alternative methods for transmitting money to our customers. This does not mean we are stopping entirely within the next two weeks, but it will be slower than we would like. We are literally going to use our manpower to process withdrawals ourselves, manually. This will take more time, but we are dedicated to doing as many per day as possible.
ThickAsThieves: alternative method (hence the suspension). We would have preferred to give notice if we were able to, but it was sudden for us as well.
ThickAsThieves: 1) The problem with the U.S. withdrawals (and even other currencies for that matter) is that our bank can no longer handle the volume of withdrawals. They struggled in the last two months, and the increase due to the Dwolla separation has made it increasingly more difficult. The pressure we brought onto the bank’s resources finally gave in, and we are now working with them to find an
ThickAsThieves: we’d certainly love to and are looking forward to the opportunity.
ThickAsThieves: The reaction since yesterday’s statement regarding the temporary suspension of U.S. dollar withdrawals has had mixed reactions, and raised more than a few questions about why we had to take this step right now. Rather than be subject to inaccurate speculation we’d like to clarify some points here. Due to pending matters we are unable to get into everything in great detail, though
ThickAsThieves: gox unleases a wall of text on facebook
Jezzz: i think bait might be appreciated here also
ThickAsThieves: what if you just put assetbot in, then we all fall in love with it, then kako boots it, then we all yell at kako, then he gives in?
davout: read that too, lold hard
mircea_popescu: "In the last 20 years, I can count on one hand all the times I've been accused of wrongdoing (all unjustified, with the exception of one, for at night, all goats look the same, and I swore he was one of mine). "
ThickAsThieves: joining AssetBot however, would get us all the Bitfunder tickers
ThickAsThieves: i think ozbot can only be instigated
mircea_popescu: nice tit.
davout: - i wasn't talking to you
davout: - here's the cow i fuck when you have your headaches
ThickAsThieves: i think he was from Louisiana
ThickAsThieves: he always bleached his teeth to often to he was always making this weird skelton face from the pain
ThickAsThieves: he owes me like $3400 too
ThickAsThieves: but true
mircea_popescu: and if they protested i'd be all "but you know google, right ?"
ThickAsThieves: this guy that owned a bunch of Arby's
ThickAsThieves: i've done that for people
mircea_popescu: just to pisso ff people
ThickAsThieves: of course the website already also appears elsewhere too
ThickAsThieves: this is also like how people insist on having this on their business card:
ThickAsThieves: i really was wondering if she'd ask that
ThickAsThieves: god forbid someone forwarded the email mnight actually visit the website
ThickAsThieves: they wanna improve their mktg and this is what the y prioritize...
mircea_popescu: "High-Grade Structured Credit Strategies Enhanced Leverage Master Fund" possibly the best name ever.
ThickAsThieves: the client that wanted email signup in their email newsletter "what I read from newsletter marketing is to accommodate those who are forwarded the newsletter and then want to sign up. So, I thought it was a great idea as people do talk about our e-newsletter and we encourage them to pass it along."
davout: (i spare you the spelling backwards for the sake of both our mental sanity)
mircea_popescu: rigjht. same thing.
mircea_popescu: you are NOT being pressured by the bank.
mircea_popescu: see, if you take a credit and then receive a letter from the bank saying you are late on repayment
mircea_popescu: but you're thinking backwards.
ThickAsThieves: i'd rather have the oil tho
mircea_popescu: do you suppose soon enouigh we'd have a deal whereby it's ok to send farts, but i have to notify you when i do ?
mircea_popescu: listen, suppose i have a pipe to your house.
davout: i don't think so, because i don't think they're having issues servicing mtgox, i think their issues are more likely related to getting pressured from lots of different sides
mircea_popescu: currently mizuho is eating a lot of overhead handling the mtgox situation, exactly because the reporting involved in that pooling is being made more ciomplex and more expensive
davout: and that's the exact regulatory crux faced by exchanges, at least in europe
davout: why woudln't they be ? that's exactly the kind of stuff banks do, take money, pool it together and decide what belongs to whom based on their books
davout: that the funds are pooled?
davout: nobody said they're going to cut out mizuho, i'm saying that it's technically possible for correspondents to filter out mtgox's flows but not possible to freeze the assets since they are probably pooled by mizuho on a US account at one/many of their correspondent(s)
davout: and that's probably the reason their USD assets abroad didn't get frozen, because they're not in mtgox's name, but pooled by the mizuho at some random correspondent
mircea_popescu: buit they ARE cutting mtgox's stuff. sooner or later mizuho will have to say sorry you can't bank here.
mircea_popescu: no, actually. they're not going to cut out mizuho
davout: mircea_popescu: not sure about that, they don't accept mtgox's correspondence directly, but the correspondence of the jp bank