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mircea_popescu: something he actually clearly understands, as displayed by the abandonment of "scammer tags" and the open system
mircea_popescu: he narrowly escaped with all the parts attached after his glbse share selling lasty year, the last thing he needs any exposure to is playing the rating agency
ThickAsThieves: and he could affect my ability to do so in that venue
ThickAsThieves: maybe so, but i use his forum to conduct business
mircea_popescu: theymos makes no representation as to having a clue about finance.
ThickAsThieves: you think?
jcpham: didn't he get outed talking to his sock the other day
ThickAsThieves: the sad thing is, I wanna negrate him, but i fear getting onto theymos' radar...
ThickAsThieves: yeah he changed it to 2% monthly midstream
ThickAsThieves: it's totally feasible to pay out a reasonableinterest rate
mircea_popescu: "1. To the bondholder, you are right that it does not matter what the funds are being used for, so long as the interest is paid."
pankkake: "How is your asset approved so quickly and with less than 5 votes?" he voted himself
ThickAsThieves: midway into conversation, he decides to doublt the interest rate
mircea_popescu: so basically the various wanna-be exchanges have simply decided to fuck themselves over, to prove this entire theory that "mp doesn't need to bother, you'll suicide"
chsados: wheres thread
ThickAsThieves: the thread is even better
usagi: That might be a problem, your not really allowed to do that
ThickAsThieves: and that it somehow got listed on BTCTC without the required 5 votes everyone else has to get
ThickAsThieves: oh did you guys catch that Garr is issuing a new bond?
mircea_popescu: social experimentation, one of the unadvertised uses of bitcoin.
jcpham: i see that on amc-pt
ThickAsThieves: he's buying up shares and reposting them at 25 himself
ThickAsThieves: people will just keep reposting the cheaper shares just under his wall at 25
mircea_popescu: i dunno, gotta let nature take its course.
mircea_popescu: a week or two ?
deadweasel: how long til the next batch?
mircea_popescu: aaaa that artichoke was lovely.
ThickAsThieves: design is so similar to arsa
ThickAsThieves: lol i thought i was on genesisblock.com
jcpham: ijs they picked a decent charity. could give more
mircea_popescu: yeah, but yours wasn't 0.75% of what you had promised to give, in order to save your fraudulent operation.
ThickAsThieves: ""BFL could have spent 75 BTC on hookers and blow, but they chose to send it to homeless outreach," King said. "If that was just a PR stunt, I can’t control [that]. What I can control is how I spend that money and use it to spend on people who are less fortunate than I am.""
ThickAsThieves: In fact, it turns out that BDF was actually started by Butterfly Labs' own employees—a fact disclosed nowhere on the BDF site. When Ars reached out to the only e-mail address listed on the site, the response that came back was from Jeff Ownby, the BFL vice president."
ThickAsThieves: "BFL didn’t make that target, and as such, it said it donated 1,000 BTC to the Bitcoin Development Fund (BDF). However, the BDF appears to have been created in May 2013 and provides no documentation that it is, in fact, a bona fide charity or nonprofit organization. Its website lists no actual people, street addresses, or phone numbers.
ThickAsThieves: dang this article is the real shit
ThickAsThieves: no way that they will back off. Backing off means that you would open the door against the government. So the way it works is you always have to agree to some minor thing just to make sure that the government doesn’t end up being wrong.”
ThickAsThieves: “The convention of mail fraud, it’s governmental stuff,” he said. “It’s difficult to explain. Governments actually take action against people for different reasons. It’s not crime always. Certain things like mail fraud, money laundering—[they are] standard [ways] to attack someone. When the government attacks you, and if there’s a point where they’re wrong, there’s
mircea_popescu: i like the guy.
mircea_popescu: "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet."
mircea_popescu: 's not related to me. Simple or complex, it's out of my territory."
mircea_popescu: Chris Vleisides is reportedly Sonny Vleisides’ stepfather, but we were unable to confirm this with BFL and neither Vleisides responded to repeated requests for interviews. Ghosieri told Ars that the two Vleisides "aren't the same person," but when asked how exactly they were related, he said, "I hope you understand, these things are personal. I can't really answer them without strict authorization—simply because it
ThickAsThieves: "Sonny Chris Vleisides, who pled guilty to one count of mail fraud in 2010 (PDF) for being involved in an international lottery scam, is an executive at BFL. "
ozbot: Gold in them bits: Inside the world’s most mysterious Bitcoin mining company | Ars Technica
ThickAsThieves: i just assumed you abstractly meant makign our own websites was the 3rd
mircea_popescu: well it did say three for some reason
ThickAsThieves: mp, i did catch that a 3rd art method was missing,
mircea_popescu: romanian soil is such that i have to fight for it with the poppies.
deadweasel: nice, yours do look extra punk rock. must be the romanian soil.
mircea_popescu: actually... it's a thistle. that sort of root
mircea_popescu: yes, if they're not too fucking old.
deadweasel: the part where they connect to the heart, you can dip them and scrape off the meat with your teeth.
mircea_popescu: well i don't expect the leaves to be edible really, but we shall see.
deadweasel: i'll buy shares of the one on the left. The one on the right doesn't seem to have enough experience.
deadweasel: excellent! you dip the leaves and scrape the meat off? then eat the hearts in a sauce? or how do you do it?
mircea_popescu: kinda too small for their age i guess, but im boiling them as we speak
deadweasel: they look tasty.
deadweasel: are they really artichokes?
mircea_popescu: deadweasel i may be the first person to grow them in romania
mircea_popescu: thanks god i was thinking of bananas i wouldn't have had a response.
deadweasel: is that an anarchist artichoke?
mircea_popescu: o wow, none of you nitpicks caught up with this one : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/statements-regarding-the-mmorpg-under-development-i-v/#comment-93745
ThickAsThieves: same thread
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves who's that quote from ?
jcpham: where can i get one banana, tweo banana shares
ozbot: One Banana Two Bananas Three Bananas Four Bananas From Vasto - YouTube
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6PiePIOKUk << this is about to ipo.
ThickAsThieves: " A lack of trustworthy businesses does not command a need for a trust-bestowing agency. If there are not enough hot women in the room, do you hire someone to determine whether a woman is hot or not?"
ozbot: The expectation of div's sets the world of crypto-stocks off on the wrong foot
deadweasel: your analogies have colors that don't even exist in fucking rainbows, MP. It takes a moment..
ThickAsThieves: mp you have me using fancy analogies too now
mircea_popescu: what, that needs to be explained ?!
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast case A, 12 yo chick wanting to suck cock with case B, 12 yo chick wanting to snort coke.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's a thorny issue.
ThickAsThieves: ie giving them their Trust Agency
ThickAsThieves: does it compromise trust to give the people what they want, even if you know they should not want it?
jcpham: i have to keep track of shares
jcpham: oh fuck all that
usagi: or he'll get paid twice
usagi: So anyways Im going to need the NYAN.A shares back if he has them
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves let him have fun, anyone that wants direct involvement with usagi is welcome to the results.
gribble: Trust relationship from user usagi to user jcpham: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 7 via 12 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=jcpham
jcpham: #1 total trust member deluxe
ThickAsThieves: exxcept you then compromise yourown trust
jcpham: totally trusty escrow right here
jcpham: usagi you can send it to me and i'll send it to mircea_popescu when he's ready for it
usagi: I got royally fucked just like everyone else and I dumped my paycheck into mtgox several times to pay people back
mircea_popescu: i have a longer memory than my cock. this is very long indeed.
mircea_popescu: all this "o, i ran with your moneys but pls sign here and you get new shares on a new venue" bs...
jcpham: on the internet. if you are caught lying. sure.
mircea_popescu: that is all and that's the end.
mircea_popescu: no but seriously, people need to grow up to the realisation that much like virginity, your honestly is not repairable.
jcpham: i will never do that again
jcpham: mircea_popescu usagi wants to give you money he/she wants you to take it off ignores
ThickAsThieves: if theyve been mining with secret units theyd be doing pretty well
usagi: He won't even take money from me lol
jcpham: so that's something.
usagi: Can someone tell mircea to take me off ignore long enough to arrange a payment? The guy sure does hold a grudge.
jcpham: i wish they had shares
jcpham: BFL is getting rich though
usagi: Oh and by the way