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Bugpowder: but you CAN make money if
the market REALLY moves
kingofsports: tbh i dont fully understand options
that is why i want
to
try it
to understand it.
Bugpowder: Just long
term investing in Vanguard funds
JimFromBronx: bitcoin has
too shitty spreads most of
the
time +
the comissions eat you
Bugpowder: I don't really
trade bitcoin right now either
Bugpowder: I was
trading
the same day as
this guy
kingofsports: whats
the min i can put into a interacive brokers and get approved for options
ozbot: Stock Futures
Trader losses it all and flips outVideo - YouTube
JimFromBronx: for
transactional users it wouldnt matter
too much
JimFromBronx: bugpowder:
that winklevoss ETF would be good for
traders/speculators
kingofsports: thinkorswim is part of
tdamerictrade i
thought
kingofsports: ive
tried
TDameritrade, Etrade, scottrade and noone have approved me.
JimFromBronx: kingofsports:
trade options on SPY on
the NYSE.
they are liquid and its cheap
dub: JimFromBronx is
trolling, ignore his ass
JimFromBronx: its
too expensive
to
trade bitcoin at
the moment
kingofsports: i have about 13k...looking
to only
trade with $1000 or $2000...
JimFromBronx: kingofsports rightfully so. a broke ass student should not be
trading.
kingofsports: problem is jim NO usd site lets me
trade options when my income is less
then 30k a year, i am finance student right now.
JimFromBronx: the commissions are ridiculously high 0.4% round
trips on mtgox?
JimFromBronx: problem with bitcoin "traders" is
they dont understand commissions eat up any return.
JimFromBronx: bitcoin is
too illiquid with a shitty bid/ask spread
to bother "shorting"
kingofsports: is
there a site
that lets me short/long bitcoins?
Bugpowder: JimFromBronx is correct
that shorting coins is very risky
JimFromBronx: kingofsports: shorting bitcoins is
too dangerous
kingofsports: oh yes i get it, i would
think
there would be a site
that would let
that happen
tho
[\]: you want
to short, but don't want
to borrow
JimFromBronx: kingofsports: i didnt say you did. you need
to borrow someone elses coins and sell
them
kingofsports: guys im new in
trading stocks n options in bitcoin, not new
to bitcoin. where do i go? was referenced from bugpowder.
JimFromBronx: kingofsports: borrow
them from someone and sell
Chaaang-Noi: <JimFromBronx> should be saving his money for bribes
to authorities. lol, know where i live?
JimFromBronx: should be saving his money for bribes
to authorities.
kingofsports: hey bugs what is
the #room
to go
to for buying BTC?
Chaaang-Noi: i dont really gamble, but ill
try it out in a bit
kingofsports: you can bet high OR LOW on just-dice, see how much is invested in
the house and how much
the house is up or down.
Bugpowder: and you can invest as
the house
too
Bugpowder: can someone walk kingofsports
thru MPEX options
kingofsports: your
the rich dude wanting
to buy
the lambo and everything in
the world on bitcointalk haha wish i had
that kind of money.
kingofsports: hey guys was
told by someone
to come here
to discuss how
to get into options
trading
Chaaang-Noi: but im not selling all, just 337 and its not even my shares, im going
to sell for him first
them ill do mine
[\]: board members buying becuase
they have info most people don't get
[\]: nothing like insider
trading
Chaaang-Noi: im setting up
the auction now, ill link you
to it here
ThickAsThieves: none yet but possibly a fair amount if another deal follows
thru
Chaaang-Noi: i was going
to do some at 3.5
then some at 5, lol
Chaaang-Noi: i was going
to sell some at 3.5! but i was in myanmar and no internet, now i get home and 5 btc!!!
Chaaang-Noi: fixed price auction at 5 btc each
too high?
dub: might be
tiberius, he's been back a few
times under various guises
ThickAsThieves: JimFromBronx is somehow on my ignore list even
tho i never heard of him
d34th: he
took a job and was really busy
d34th: he is looking
to rejoin
the bitvps
team
Chaaang-Noi: i saw rg in litecoin chan not
too long ago
ozbot: BTC-TC: BTC
Trading Corp - View Security
davos: the issue with mining vs selling hardware is
that
the retail buyer isn't sufficiently discounting difficulty increases - which means it will be more profitable
to sell
the hardware
than mine
davos: i
think it will be before
then. i
think when you can sell all of
the miners you can assemble
then mining is for chumps.
they should alternate
to run
their own pool, pull a small commission on
that, and sell hardware
Chaaang-Noi: sealswith clubs is
the only poker site i have ever used
davos: AM won't be able
to run
the farm forever. it will stop making sense at some point
Chaaang-Noi: but sooner or later
their will be others out
there
davos: this is what
the plebes don't get about AM. AM may have 20% of
the network... but with hardware...
they've actually already presold 20% of
the next few months and are hashing with another 20
Chaaang-Noi: i got a good deal on it, a guy is going
to do all
the work for me and run
them with low electric for 2 years
davos: should pack
those and sell
them. all of
the money is in hardware