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mjr_: i mean, do they attempt to use logic at all?
Namworld: But I have 4x the debt in collateral/funds/stocks/etc
pankkake: because they are stupid. and they like to blame something, usually people who have what they don't have
Namworld: and I think the collateral requirement is gone
Namworld: Those have gone out the window tho. It's 0.03% per day (0.21% per week)
mjr_: can anyone explain to me how people thought asics lowered the price of btc?
Namworld: Dividend was 0.5% weekly instead too. 26.07% per year.
mjr_: which does not lay the blame at the feet of asics
mjr_: I have a new theory by the way, on what has been going on with prices
mjr_: its also nice though, since you have redeem on demand, you don't really have to, as you can just sell and everyone knows what its worth
mjr_: back in the day i think it was 2X
mjr_: 11% a year is fine i think
Namworld: It's not very high interest tho
Namworld: If difficulty changes, so does the payment. But it's always fixed at 1 mhash/s
Namworld: Currently 1 mhash/s is estimated to get 0.000165 BTC weekly at current difficulty.
Namworld: It's a hashing speed. The bond basically pays the expected proceeds of X mhash/s of mining over the payment period.
CheckDavid: is that processing power?
Namworld: While a hashing bond is just that, a fixed X mhash/s payment at fixed intervals
CheckDavid: don't they go up and down on hashing bonds as well?
Namworld: Also it usually comes with rights to the equipment
Namworld: Usually the dividends go up and down according to the mining operation's total hashing.
CheckDavid: after all, what they pay is more similar to dividends than interest, no?
CheckDavid: Would stocks be fit for the same purpose?
Namworld: Usually, you never get the principal back.
Namworld: Yeah, but there's what people call "hashing bonds"
CheckDavid: I thought it was standard on bonds
Namworld: that pays the principal back
Namworld: And this is a bond that does: https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
mircea_popescu: somehow people have come to believe homebrew is a better solution than the actual solution for some reason.
mircea_popescu: deprived has a variant too
mircea_popescu: wherein you could make symmetrical assets which allow you to play the mining futures market
Chaaang-Noi: it was that isreali guy
mircea_popescu: afaik tat.vm is an attempt by ThickAsThieves to implement the old brendio idea,
Chaaang-Noi: <mircea_popescu> what we talkin' about ? you, and if you were a troll or not.
jurov: about mpoe. virtualmine has nothing to do with mpoe
CheckDavid: That's apparently a bond that doens't pay principal?
mircea_popescu: what we talkin' about ?
jurov: yes. and mpoe-pr is explaining it there in all seriousness
CheckDavid: jurov, i was confused about this https://btct.co/security/TAT.VIRTUALMINE
matthew_boyd: He was referring to where a lot of trolling happens
Chaaang-Noi: speak of the devil!
CheckDavid: Not talking about trolls man
jurov: me too
CheckDavid: I am talking seriously
jurov: CheckDavid: it's all out there on the trolltalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139017.0
Chaaang-Noi: Namworld, yeah i know he did not read the address, he did not read it even after i told him he did not read it... face palm
jurov: he is mpex owner, i mean. about the troll, depends who you ask.
CheckDavid: Can Bonds not return the principle?
CheckDavid: I thought it was the owner of mpex
CheckDavid: Mircea is a troll?
matthew_boyd: Heck, I am probably more mature than this guy and he is maybe twice, or three times my age. :)
matthew_boyd: That's a bit of a paradox, seeing that that is uber childish as he is namedropping
matthew_boyd: "I swear some people (like goat) go around the forum looking for things to cry about. Seriously it is entertaining and yet sometimes annoying because it reminds me of how a young child does things."
Namworld: He, looks like he didn't read that address at all at first, just assuming you were going to ship to whatever other country you currently reside in.
Chaaang-Noi: if anyone enjoyed it, make a compint, i know im going to get all sorts of hate :)
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, im hte one bitching to admins! lol
matthew_boyd: Haven't finished, but I found that entertaining :D
matthew_boyd: "Your whining and crying on the forums doesn't exactly give off a mature tone."
Chaaang-Noi: iv not lauged so hard so long,,, that quote from badbear almost made my shit my pants
Diablo-D3: no, a troll
jurov: last time we almost trolled mircea
Diablo-D3: man, that must take a lot of gpu power to do a vanity like that
ozbot: [FAIL CAPTAIN] Some Fun Facts About Smoothie the Troll
matthew_boyd: + The addresses, damn you are getting more and more creative :P
Chaaang-Noi: d3 you are welcome to post i that thread, and he calls him self troll of trolls
Diablo-D3: I am the king of trolls.
matthew_boyd: holy shit, they are a good read!
matthew_boyd: Chaaang-Noi: literally just read the pms
mjr_: if only i worked in the M&A arm of a bitcoin investment bank
mjr_: i spent a lot of time hanging out on just-dice yesterday
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.87017, Best ask: 77.88706, Bid-ask spread: 0.01689, Last trade: 77.88706, 24 hour volume: 61190.66349097, 24 hour low: 68.10001, 24 hour high: 80.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.08661
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market mtgox|btce|bitstamp]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that (1 more message)
benkay_: best nonsense in -assets to date.
benkay_: "you only have too many if its over 21 million"
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.09800, Best ask: 78.09879, Bid-ask spread: 0.00079, Last trade: 78.09879, 24 hour volume: 57999.18490396, 24 hour low: 67.51100, 24 hour high: 80.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.74297
Bugpowder: but I don't trust gox
Bugpowder: If I were trading, I might buy this
Chaaang-Noi: you only have too many if its over 21 million
Bugpowder: but I have too many coins
thestringpuller: Bugpowder: what's the move?
Chaaang-Noi: i thoght we were doing 50 soon
Chaaang-Noi: i see them eating at that wall
Chaaang-Noi: i hope its the right 5% :)
Chaaang-Noi: i hold 5% of it, its my bfl play, other than that one 60 ghs unit i have
Chaaang-Noi: hope the ship to cognitive and then just die off :)
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.00501, Best ask: 78.49555, Bid-ask spread: 0.49054, Last trade: 78.49555, 24 hour volume: 44182.75657201, 24 hour low: 66.62000, 24 hour high: 78.83000, 24 hour vwap: 72.98185
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.89500, Best ask: 77.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.10400, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 42274.79996801, 24 hour low: 66.60001, 24 hour high: 78.68600, 24 hour vwap: 72.50183
thestringpuller: you came to the wrong channel mircea_popescu *shakes fists*
KRS: ;;eightball is btc really hitting rock bottom next tuesday
dub: I recently had my tarrot cards, runestones and magic eight ball certified 100% accurate
KRS: ok thakns
KRS: hey dub is btc really hitting rock bottom next tues?
matthew_bold: Wait, is ChaangNo_ here? And is that Chaaang-Noi?
gribble: There are currently 26089296 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10765753.9504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0069 seconds
emptyeddepended: haha nothing.. i just had to smile because of "He invests to my knowledge" and "but not in fan clubs" and that came to my mind :)
kakobrekla: is this your first time on the internet?
gribble: There are currently 134299.6 bitcoins offered at or under 1.11111111111e+20 USD, worth 2.80382578378e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 29.8011 seconds
matthew_boyd: He invests to my knowledge
ICECUBE: Is that the person with much LTC
matthew_boyd: Haha that was when he was on the drugs :P