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thestringpuller: In the same way MP charges 30 BTC to get into MPEX. In order to raid you needed to go through 60+ levels of shit.
ThickAsThieves: seems to be rewording what i said
thestringpuller: Not entirely, that's half the coin. But they wanted to create a barrier to entry to the end game.
ThickAsThieves: to make the game last longer
thestringpuller: or the original intent
thestringpuller: But do you know why they make you farm ThickAsThieves?
Namworld: It really kills the gameplay value
Namworld: You don't HAVE to pay. But most micropayment games have gameplay made so that if you don't pay, you can't advance, compete or must grind for months on end to acquire "premium" currencies.
ThickAsThieves: then i could spend my time playing the dame the way i wanted
mjr_: the one after lich king i think
thestringpuller: No one wants to fucking smoke crack, but it's addictive.
thestringpuller: Namworld makes the best point. It has to be fun. You can make any gimmick you want in a game, but people are going to keep playing it.
ThickAsThieves: Nam you dont HAVE to pay
Namworld: But whatever, companies are free to release a payment model as they please.
ThickAsThieves: it wasn't THAT bad
Namworld: And honestly, how fun is a game when to progress, you must pay? Isn't the whole point to entertain yourself with good gameplay and advancement through that gameplay? A subscription for online games and flat fee for offline game is a good model.
thestringpuller: What devalues a game is whether or not you're making the gameplay optional or not.
davout: she was all like "fucking noobs gonna flood the servers"
ThickAsThieves: are more likely to move on to a new game or less?
ThickAsThieves: if you pay for all your stuff do you value the game more or less?
thestringpuller: "rehab" so to speak
thestringpuller: Namworld: but what happens when those addicts go to rehab?
Namworld: The way it is now, with micropayments games, most play free, a few addicts pay thousands to have everything.
ThickAsThieves: not sure if it's a good thing or bad thinig personally
thestringpuller: Or perhaps it's just the "Zynga climate" in general.
ThickAsThieves: they are simply offering what WoW players already pay for through grey markets
thestringpuller: I think Rift is what kinda forced a lot of other games hands from the subscription model.
thestringpuller: Wow is that game 2 years old already?
ThickAsThieves: pay to level up, etc
ThickAsThieves: free to play
ThickAsThieves: string, what do you think of Rift's current model
thestringpuller: You can earn money in any MMO. That's not why the core players play them though...
mjr_: thestringpuller: i think it is interesting, because similar to WoW you can earn money by playing
ThickAsThieves: michael chiklis was not a great thing
thestringpuller: MegaMan 2 was a great thing...
thestringpuller: Super Mario Bros. 3 was a great thing
ThickAsThieves: it's a great thing
ThickAsThieves: but in this case i think he'd be right
mjr_: i'm just looking forward to playing it
ThickAsThieves: or have a way to portray it as a great success
thestringpuller: MP will likely sweep it under the rug or have a salvage plan.
davout: or we get to make fun at MP for failing miserably
ThickAsThieves: string argues that is not good enough
davout: either i make some money on the S.MG shares
davout: let's see how the execution rolls out
ThickAsThieves: about their methodology and path for the current game
ThickAsThieves: i just think your gloom and doom is misplaced or at least disproportionate
davout: i knew this one :-)
thestringpuller: also the clouds and the bushes are the same sprites
thestringpuller: but 1-2 they change to blue
thestringpuller: For instance in 1-1 they look "normal"
thestringpuller: Did you know the reason the the goombas and koopas change in Super Mario Bros. is because the NES had limited color data.
ThickAsThieves: he's THE game developer
davout: thestringpuller: didn't know it, actually it's the first time ever I read an article there :-)
thestringpuller: davout: I love Gamasutra, it's pretty much the news site for game developers.
mjr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala this is a fascinating article
davout: thestringpuller: I find it to be an interesting article
peterl: but all the stocks instead of individualized?
thestringpuller: I have a feeling mircea_popescu thinks of Gamasutra, as a "Fanfic" blog, as MPOE-PR would put it.
peterl: you mean like the PT's?
ThickAsThieves: the easiest would be an index fund, where i actually buy 1 of each stock and sell them as 1 index unti
ThickAsThieves: well there is more than one idea i have floating
mjr_: or you would see those cool ones, you can see other ones without reading it
mjr_: if you read the novel REAMDE you could see the cool applicatoins
mjr_: oh lol, i just want to play it
Namworld: I want to play my game already
mjr_: can't wait to play it
ThickAsThieves: me too
mjr_: hopefully it would be an mpex15 at that time
mjr_: i actually wish there was more IB stuff in btcland
mjr_: most famous/important the russel imbalance
mjr_: where they adjust the ratios to keep them in line with the funds stated goals
mjr_: at pre-announced times
thestringpuller: he emailed me at the start of june
ThickAsThieves: seems odd to disappear without a trace
mjr_: i think he had some stuff going on too
mjr_: i talked to Bugpowder yesterday
mjr_: i think he did
mjr_: and at the end of the day, what matters is where you put your money
ThickAsThieves: didn't smickles used to play midmarket?
mjr_: and i don't claim to know better than him, by any means, i haven't written a lot of options and he has
mjr_: but he has a good model in place to avoid insolvency, but not to avoid loss
mjr_: if you told them that the vol was over 100, they would consider it suicidal (probably)
mjr_: well, if you ask anyone, "what is the riskiest thing you can do in finance?" i think they would say write options without a hedge
mjr_: and that is great, and actually a public service
mjr_: so he has decided to be that someone
mjr_: You can't pull yourself up by your breeches and for the very same reason you can't have everybody in the market hedge. Someone needs to provide the support everyone else relies on to hedge. I'm that someone
ThickAsThieves: or is he simply too worried about flash crashes and such
mjr_: but i agree with the second point
ThickAsThieves: is maybe his own analysis says that lower prices are too risky
ThickAsThieves: the second reason, which begs more thought,
mjr_: his stock is at an all time high right now if i remember correctly
ThickAsThieves: and then he did
mjr_: well...wrong needs to be defined in this context
ThickAsThieves: he didnt wanna change the algo when he was losing money
ThickAsThieves: even to himself
ThickAsThieves: first being that MP simply hates being"wrong"
ThickAsThieves: i think that reason is just an extension of one of two possible real reasons
ThickAsThieves: you think?
mjr_: i mean, i think the only reason (per trilema) that mp hasn't moved it, is due to the fact no one has jumped into the middle