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jurov: *hint* it would be possible for mpex whale to ask mp for margin and use that to cover options
ThickAsThieves: he's still the only one backing real options
Chaaang-Noi: him going too far out, and with other and maybe better options, he is just going to in the end, die out
ThickAsThieves: more than a criticism
ThickAsThieves: this is a theory
ThickAsThieves: and change in the other direction is waiting to happen, but he is waiting for mid-market competition as a reason
ThickAsThieves: i'm saying he doesn't like changing them as it is a form of defeat
jurov: mjr_, ThickAsThieves: iirc mircea *did* change the options pricing algo in april or may. the prices used to be better before. it's even mentioned in monthly report.
mjr_: best part of the article Minister blames shortage on 'excessive demand caused by media campaign generated to disrupt the country'
Chaaang-Noi: also, trolling smoothie,
Chaaang-Noi: drinking hard liquire after a long fucking tome away, its really good stuff
pankkake: I'm actually investing in TP. because http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/16/venezuela-toilet-paper-shortage-50m
rulother: Might as well been tp all this time
ThickAsThieves: or use it for toilet paper
rulother: I'm just thinking it makes more sense to cancel and buy a Saturn instead
ThickAsThieves: didnt they cancel refunds?
rulother: So I'm thinking of cancelling my bfl order for 3 singles, they're saying preorders placed before Jan 2013, will now ship out by Sept, then you have all of Feb-April crap. Mine was placed in April
mjr_: that was the quoi i was looking for
mjr_: not to mention super hot girls at great strip clubs
mjr_: it has that  je ne sais quoi
mjr_: well, if canada were to have a bitcoin capital, i think montreal would be perfect
Diablo-D3: canada is not going to get a bitcoin capital
mjr_: so much to be done...
mjr_: i was just thinking actually of a tool that would be nice, (i need to add a calendar anyway), but a consensus building location chooser for new groups meeting
Namworld: Cheap housing, cheap living costs. Compared to most major urban cities
mjr_: and would love to visit and help organize an event there
mjr_: i hear it is an awesome town
mjr_: i would love that
mjr_: i really really want to go to montreal
Namworld: Declare it Bitcoin Capital of the world.
Namworld: Y u no come to Montreal?!?
mjr_: north side of the park, by the Lincoln Statue
mjr_: if anyone is in NYC and wants to come to Satoshi Square, its in Union Square from 5-7pm
mjr_: just to throw this out there
ThickAsThieves: it doesn't require such concern to believe
thestringpuller: I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!!
thestringpuller: davout: I respect the shit out of MP, but I question his game company. I wish I could have faith. I WANT TO BELIEVE ThickAsThieves
thestringpuller: davout: that's what Atari did, and look at them now...
beetlebee: <emptyeddepended> but there is no official name convention actually there is. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpsics-in-detail/
davout: he has romanian slaves working in sweatshops for the AI, it's going to rock
thestringpuller: MP wants to create that kind of world in his flagship game. How he does it is irrelevant, but it's a vast undertaking. To underestimate such an endeavor is practically suicide.
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: do you know why GTA has become so successful? Because of the subtle and gross content you desire in a game. Lets take Fruit computers for example: http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/images/FruitComputers-GTAVCS-advert.png That advert is from Vice City, which takes play in the 80's. The fake brand perpetuates throughout the entire series. Only hardcore players will actually read the shit, but it's still
mjr_: anyways, tying a game to something meaningful is usually a recipe for successs
thestringpuller: I think minecraft has that on lock down (jkjk)
thestringpuller: I dont think there was a tree resource
mjr_: but how did the trees get there
thestringpuller: mjr_: so corporations of course formed to rape the planets of their resources.
thestringpuller: mjr_: ALl of the items in the game had to be crafted.
mjr_: some goes to trees, metal etc, from the rough description i heard
thestringpuller: mjr_: you would have liked the original incarnation of Star Wars Galaxies
ThickAsThieves: i think only consumables are planned to cost money, like food
mjr_: i *think* that the money you put in is not all yours though
mjr_: but things cost money and crafting combines value
ThickAsThieves: and offers ways for you to sell things for it
ThickAsThieves: i dont think S.MG generates coin at all
thestringpuller: and eerily similar to the "The World" of .hack//anythinghere
mjr_: that is the game in REAMDE
mjr_: that sounds exactly (or pretty close) to S.MG
mjr_: Two things have assured T’Rain’s commercial success: actual geological laws have been programmed to govern its terrain (it is this feature from which the game’s name derives); and the game uses a currency system based on real money — treasure mined from the strata of T’Rain’s crust can be transformed into earthly coin.
ThickAsThieves: only game i put any mentionable time into in recent years is Skyrim
thestringpuller: It can be, but it just was too...simple in comparison to the rush of a 1v1 in Starcraft or Warcraft III. But I can see the allure.
ThickAsThieves: i think my bro gifted me dota on steam recently
mjr_: though there is leveling and decision trees to some extent
mjr_: and not a huge time commitment
ThickAsThieves: never played any of those
mjr_: i think it is a hugely popular game that has monetized in a great way
mjr_: what do you think of league of legends
thestringpuller: MTG also has artist on call that rivals a comic book publisher.
ThickAsThieves: they see that value
ThickAsThieves: i think it's an overlooked and undervalued aspect of gaming, original new art
thestringpuller: It's like Gatsby syndrome without the prohibition...
thestringpuller: Wasn't that the case in Diablo II years before?
ThickAsThieves: if the carrot is stale, the chase is staler for it
thestringpuller: Yes but if the gameplay were new and they weren't obviously milking you would you really care?
mjr_: i mean, the metaverse could be looked at like an mmorpg
ThickAsThieves: it mattered to me
mjr_: ok, there are similarities
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: but that actually doesn't have to matter. In Mario all of the sprites are practically the same because of hardware limitations.
thestringpuller: mjr_: I was told it was Snow Crash but in a different time period...
mjr_: specifically about "farming" and "in game money" and how it relates to real world
ThickAsThieves: and seeing endgame bosses with the same models
ThickAsThieves: seeing the same art on endgame armor and weps
thestringpuller: mjr_: isn't that by neal stephenson?
mjr_: which is for the most part, gameplay free, look cool = money
ThickAsThieves: WoW did not use the money for this purpose
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: and that's my point exactly, good content. more generally "fun"
Namworld: A good game is enjoyable and can be sold to everyone at a cheaper prices. Less money per persons, more players.
davout: mmorpgs are like alcohol, they cost money, and more importantly they cost time
Namworld: The thing is, with payments to advance, few can play, and a few drops big amounts of cash to show off their wealth. Poor gameplay, you just pay to progress.
ThickAsThieves: not the reverse
ThickAsThieves: i think great content and accessibility to it IS what makes a game good
mjr_: I mean, there was an interesting article on hats
mjr_: hanging out in the town hall
mjr_: could taht be the equivalent of crafting?
mjr_: ^ what i was going to say
davout: if they really want to trade on mpex they just go on coinbr
Namworld: they make you grind because you know, monthly subscription. While when it's payments to advance, it's either pay immediately to go on or drop.
thestringpuller: Yea but a lot of people who would want to get into MPEX say "fuck it" and "drop out".
ThickAsThieves: i dont need to grind
thestringpuller: But a lot of people drop out before they get to the end.