880800+ entries in 0.559s
nicofrobeen: Symbol: BASIC-MINING, Since: 17.06.2013 (30 days), N = 1611 (trades), Mean: 0.34463, Square: 0.05610, Volatility: 0.23685 << could
this somehow be correct?
mjr_: that is for
this months expiry
mjr_: example: AAPL closed at $430 i
think,
the call for $430 is $3.55
kakobrekla: i
think Namworld has a sheet like
that
mjr_: in a more liquid market with more depth, you can usually
trust market prices somewhat
mjr_: i wish bugpowda was here, he prob has a spreadsheet
to do it for you
mjr_: then find
the square root of
that number
mjr_: square
that number and
take
the average of all
the squares
mjr_: calculate
the difference from
the average return for each days return
mjr_: find
the average return
mjr_: figure out
the return for each day
mjr_: i would say go with
the last 30 days
mjr_: after you know what
the option is worth, figure out CP risk premium etc
mjr_: but, if you want an example, look at
the stock market
nicofrobeen: thanks mjr_.. i give it a
try in
the next minutes
mjr_: since you can only lose
that share
mjr_: anyway, if you hold
the share, you can sell your option at whatever price you want
mjr_: but also realize
that you are basically relying on your accuracy and how correctly you calculate
the volatility
mjr_: since volatility is really
the only variable
that you need
mjr_: you can figure out
the vol
mjr_: but most
things don't work
that way
mjr_: then you have
to charge a lot
mjr_: if you assume
that
the price will go
to a million and 0 every day
mircea_popescu: rule of
thumb is : (current price - strike) = minimum premium for calls
nicofrobeen: i'm going
to look into schoeles, but
tbh
this looks complicated, so i'd like
to know, if
there is some rule of
thumb
nicofrobeen: i'm asking, because my first intention was: a premium of 0.021 is almost nothing.. but i have not really a reference besides other options
to compare
this
Namworld: They only have
to pay
the premium upfront.
Namworld: They also have a strike. People pay
the strike at execution.
Namworld: Yeah calls sell for less
than selling
the shares.
mircea_popescu: sure, but it still can't sell for less
than what you'd get selling
the share.
ThickAsThieves: really, what you are willing
to sell for is all
that matters with an option
ThickAsThieves: two factors: what someone will pay, and what you are willing
to sell fo
jurov: oh my, what do i find here, again. from lettuce growing op
thru amc retardation
to social media enthusiasts
nubbins`: in fact,
that entire bio is basically just a list of facebook widgets
mjr_: why can't joe be
the whore?
mjr_: and believe me
there is so much
to attack in
the idea/substantive space
mjr_: well, i
think
that personal attacks are usually
the result of not having something substantive
to attack...
nubbins`: the phrase 'social media enthusiast' makes me weep for
the future
mircea_popescu: "Passionate writer, photographer and
traveller. Social Media enthusiast. Positive is how I Live."
Rulother: You should have fun with
that
then
mircea_popescu: i mean my
tweet about
the linux idiot woman ?! mostly women retweeted it. wtf.
mjr_: lol, i was glad
that mika
tan responded ;P
mjr_: which is why you specialize, and each entity deals with
trying
to obtain its goal
mjr_: most people's problems can be figured out by realizing
that
they don't know what
their goal is
mjr_: trade happens on
the secondary market between customers/brokers
mjr_: customers contact
their brokers
to get access
to new stocks
mjr_: underwriter gets broker dealer
to market make
the new issue
mjr_: underwriter gives y btc
to company who now no longer cares
error47311: but 2FA is a special case, dunno if all
token are in
the backup or not...
mircea_popescu: i never used a smartphone myself so perhaps not
thge best person
to say
mjr_: businesses don't want/shouldn't have
to deal with
the raising money beyond setting up an IPO
mjr_: but
that is
the point
error47311: mircea_popesc : dont care if some1 found it, still need all my password. But me, if i lose it and buy a new ! do i still have my
token for all my wallet in my backup
mjr_: and i
think most of what is on
those other sites is
trash
mjr_: investors, get assets
to invest in
mircea_popescu: error47311 prolly
the person finding it could use it like you used it
mjr_: company
to get money
to fund
their operations
dub: idiots need a way
to
throw money at scammers bro
mjr_: you have
to look at each entity's needs and goals
error47311: stupid question, if you lose your iphone and you restore a new one with your backup, what happend
to google 2FA ?? every
token are in ?
mjr_: but it is very orderly when
the exchange doesn't do EVERYTHING
ThickAsThieves: his next move will be
to remove
the walls at 25
that he promised not
to move and were justifiable
nubbins`: heh, you'd need
to fork folding@home
to make sense of
that
mjr_: anyways, i like
the wild west
too
ThickAsThieves: well
the retardation folds on itself when you consider
that AMC isn't even an IPO
mjr_: for example, look at what happened when erik wanted
to release 3,000,000 more shares
mjr_: i
think it could make sense
mircea_popescu: "asset" "issuers" upset
that people undersold
their worthless crap
mircea_popescu: remarkably, it was being
the main point of discussing on glbse