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mjr_: and how long you can tie up the money
mjr_: but that depends on how much you have to spend right now
mjr_: i am of the opinion that over the long term, mining millibits could be very profitable
mjr_: well, most people look at this in a very short time scope
Rulother: And by the time I get those
Rulother: I might as well cancel my singles, I'm able to generate more btc a day by trading than what I would of with my singles.
ThickAsThieves: whatever it is, blood will be spilled this fall
mjr_: i think they said that there were 2.1 million chips from avalon in that one shipment
ThickAsThieves: and if they aren't nimble, they will get squashed
ThickAsThieves: it's a hard time for miners
ozbot: Latest Shipment of Avalon ASICs Could Increase Bitcoin Network Hashrate By 500% - The Genesis Block
ThickAsThieves: and keep hopping like that
ThickAsThieves: buy newer tech
ThickAsThieves: is you buy the latest tech, mine while it's very ripe, sell that tech just before it hits a steep curve of value loss,
mjr_: of course, hard to call a bottom (hello, s.dice)
mjr_: like wait till they crash nicely, then just get a steady revenue stream
ThickAsThieves: rather than the manager
mjr_: i was talking about after the hype cycle
ThickAsThieves: this is putting the burden on the shareholder
ThickAsThieves: so speculating that they will hold their share price long enough
mjr_: and i think the way to look at them (besides quick opportunity trade) is as a steady source of income4
mjr_: well, there are t-bills
ThickAsThieves: this makes them really no better than a PMB
ThickAsThieves: the issue I have with Mining funds is they require some real hardeware arb to actually be profitable
Rulother: Yeah trying to sell off my basic shares in time before another spike
mjr_: cog just announced that they will have 2 more avs up by thurs i thinki
ThickAsThieves: none guarantee they will
mjr_: but don't they change their hashing power?
ThickAsThieves: it pays the rewards from a fixed amount of hashing
ThickAsThieves: [09:07] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [FIMB] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] <<< Looks like Garr's bond made it through
ThickAsThieves: eat that wall!
ThickAsThieves: get em while they're hot...
Scrat: the tat hath spoketh
Rulother: What do you guys think the realistic stable price of cog and basic will be?
mjr_: maybe something there, always easy money on conversions
mjr_: who are handling the BTC to whatever indonesian currency is
mjr_: but he said he has some big players on that side
mjr_: that is either close to indonesia or in indonesia right?
mjr_: who wouldn't love to go ther
ChaangNoi: tell him to get to bali :)
mjr_: and wanted me to sell him another 5k yesterday, but we couldn't meet before banks closed
ChaangNoi: mjr- im betting more than 20k on gox taking ltc, so i hope they do before the fucking fail
mjr_: so he wants 20k USD worth of litecoin before that announcement comes out
mjr_: thinks that will move it from 3 to 6
mjr_: i know someone who is betting 20k on gox starting to accept litecoin
mjr_: for a long time
ChaangNoi: i think gox is failing, and people know it, so they are buying btc from gox to get the fuck out, cuz they know they cant get fiat
matthew_boyd: Be there tomorrow
ChaangNoi: who wants to buy 500k usd worth of btc in cash in person?
ChaangNoi: think its going to die
ChaangNoi: starting to worry about gox
matthew_boyd: Nice :P What's your choice of poison tonight?
ozbot: MTGox. Bank tries to get back the Withdraws
ChaangNoi: scrat he runs an exchange, in thailand, and iv never heard of it
Apocalyptic: haha Scrat, that sums it up pretty well
ericmuyser: takes so long to get BTC out of BTC-TC these days...
KRS: anyone know how i can take the #bitcoin-anal chat room from chanserv
dub: im quietly hoping that is true
ThickAsThieves: maybe this is your notice
dub: of course my administrator has restricted this, why would I need more than two weeks worth of calendar synced to my phone!
nicofrobeen: where do you trade?
taub: trading btcusd is such a suckers game with those fucking fees
nicofrobeen: basic is acquiring the next 500 gh/s upgrade, if this motion passes: https://btct.co/security/BASIC-MINING#tab5
mircea_popescu: so yeah, it's kinda easy as a new guy to figure all this shit is what it claims to be
mircea_popescu: basically they had imagined they can make the claims and nobody;s going to verify
mircea_popescu: some "company" tghat intended to deliver. and was going to even meet people to "show they're legit". then kakobrekla drove hundreds of miles and the cocksuckers simply hid away
mircea_popescu: and my reference to the hungarians earlier was exactly the same thing
nicofrobeen: i didn't know about that. you talk about the asset on btct, right?
mircea_popescu: basic mining was the first run of the "intended to deliver but fucked everyone over anyway"
nicofrobeen: sure, but i don't see the connection between am and bm
mircea_popescu: do you know what the word means ?
nicofrobeen: what do you mean with "that's the prototype"?
mircea_popescu: "intention to deliver", what's that ?
mircea_popescu: read up on basic miner, that's the prototype
thestringpuller: isn't there a name for that con?
nicofrobeen: hm.. i doubt this is a pure scam. they seem to have the intention to deliver.
mircea_popescu: then pre-sell "hardware". leech part deux off the wanna-be miners, and the lesser scammers running lesser 'assets", ie pmbs
mircea_popescu: launch "asset", leech whatever btc off the "investors"
mircea_popescu: this is actually the perfect scam as it turns out.
Blastbob: now they are preselling hardware
Blastbob: think they got that money already
nicofrobeen: they are collecting money for the nrc for *that chip or do they have more than one chip and this 16 gh/s chip is ready? x_x
mircea_popescu: Blastbob you mean in their dreams or what ?
nicofrobeen: afaik the chip isn't in production yet
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla remember the hungarian comp ?
Blastbob: they say the got the fastest chip at 16GHs
nicofrobeen: there is much discussion about this company
nicofrobeen: i'm not sure, they started to take preorders now
nicofrobeen: "AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s"
KRS-: are they going to release hardware soon
mircea_popescu: dude that guy looks evil
Blastbob: looks better on that wall than on the webpage
nicofrobeen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/98907028@N08/9279239205/ all the time i thought the logo was photoshopped (vmc)
thestringpuller: straight up cold war shit there
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this one? http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/CIA%20Assassinations/Item%2009.pdf
thestringpuller: The CIA actually invented it with taxpayer money in the late 1960s to early 1970s. It was not disclosed until 1975, when Senator Frank Church displayed it to a subcommittee investigating the CIA.s illegal activities. They are specifically forbidden from directly killing anyone in the performance of espionage and intelligence-gathering. The gun was designed to be untraceable. It fires a bullet made of ice, about 0
mircea_popescu: it's just like in the pseudostudies class.
mircea_popescu: ya man. totally.
ThickAsThieves: and his reply amounted to "well, that's like, your opinion, man"
ThickAsThieves: hehe, I replied to the primary market guy,