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mjr_: k, coins are better as long as you don't pay too much over spot
gecko_x2: get the 20 franc rooster and vreneli's too
Chaang-Noi: gecko who are you selling to?
mjr_: not 1oz though, right?
gecko_x2: bars can be filled with tungsten
gecko_x2: bars suck when u need to sell
Chaang-Noi: that is fine, but get whatever is the lowest priced:)
Chaang-Noi: if you can get the coins near spot, do that
Chaang-Noi: i was able to get a lot of pandas near spot
mjr_: interesting guys, thanks
gecko_x2: you buy at bullion price and they develope a premium over the years
Chaang-Noi: if silver i would do the 100 oz bars or the 500 oz box of eagles, if i do gold i would do 1 oz or 10 oz bars or 1oz maple leaf coins
gecko_x2: because they are extremely liquid, and seminumismatic
gecko_x2: stick to perth mint lunars lunars
mjr_: but point is, you can get more of the metal with bullion i would imagine
gecko_x2: no that crap is not for you
gecko_x2: you just don't know the coins
gecko_x2: but if you have let's say a million bucks then still coins definiately
Chaang-Noi: if you can get pretty coins just over spot, then fine, if not get bullion
gecko_x2: well if you trade in 400 Oz bars that's fine
mjr_: i mean, and maybe this is silly, but how hard would it be to just mint your own coins?
Chaang-Noi: i dont like paying $30 for a silver coin that has $19 worth of silver in it...
Chaang-Noi: <gecko_x2> they are much more liquid i would say that about the bullion
gecko_x2: and they might develop a premium over time
Chaang-Noi: if i do coins i do the bullion coins like the 500 coin monsters of the us eagles
mjr_: do you guys think it is worth it to get gold that is minted? or is bullion better?
Chaang-Noi: but will save a lot of people i the btc world a lot of pain
Chaang-Noi: coinibul just upset he is now know as a scammer, yeah, that was a lot of my doing...
Chaang-Noi: fraud? that guy got shit on the forum for not sending his customers silver, he was a scammer
mjr_: here is the third amendment case http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/08/family-booted-from-home-for-police-detail-suing-with-rare-use-third-amendment/
Chaang-Noi: i dont know that guy, and dont give a fuck
Chaang-Noi: I'm not sure what happened but assbot kicked me from #bitcoin-assets and my client auto-rejoined and then the bot banned me.
Chaang-Noi: haha i just got a message from the guy you banned
Chaang-Noi: well you fuckers still living in the usa, muhahahah best of luck
mjr_: so still a little time while we get the 5th
Chaang-Noi: that is how it works most of the time
mjr_: well, i think they are only up to taking away the first 4
Rulother_: I read an article recently about a hacker, where the police couldn't decode his computer and he didn't have to give up the password due to the 5th Amend, and got off clean as a result.
mjr_: but also stego, in that they don't know there is secret info, you are hiding the secret info in other public info
Chaang-Noi: AMC-PT is good stuff to use
mjr_: with two separate passwords, one opens the one "oh, you got me"
Chaang-Noi: yes, i use that
mjr_: truecrypt has a feature like that
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mjr_: they are trying to pressure people that are arrested to be forced to decrypt their drives
Chaang-Noi: i fear the govt more than a hackers/theif...
mjr_: and, the govt has been trying to get a legal equivalent to a $5 wrench
mjr_: i mean disk level is usually not great....because like xkcd said about the $5 wrench
Chaang-Noi: well the police cant hack my computer to get my bank records and what not
mjr_: physical security is usually a lot easier to maintain
mjr_: my point was, if you have file level...the rest is mostly irrelevant, and that attack vector is IMO the smallest
Chaang-Noi: lol, of all the things to worry about, porn is not one of them
mjr_: yes, i know, you would want to get disk level and then partition level and maybe even file level
kakobrekla: just delete those nudes
Chaang-Noi: i have more data than just btc i want to protect
Chaang-Noi: also im not just worried about my BTC, i dont want the fucking SEC or whatever raiding my ass
mjr_: so they would be encrypted either way
gecko_x2: was all quiet over the weekend lol
mjr_: you can have disk level, but you would still encrypt the files that are important
gecko_x2: nice action today
mjr_: well that is what i mean
mjr_: almost all were by someone gaining access to a machine that was already on
mjr_: i would say that out of most bitcoin hacks
Chaang-Noi: mjr_ yeah that is what im worried about
mjr_: which is by far the least of most people's worries
mjr_: if i remember correctly, drive level will only help you in the event someone gains physical access to your machine
kakobrekla: if that goes
kakobrekla: the problem is the controller
Chaang-Noi: no something about the encryption not being so good or someting, not sure :/
Chaang-Noi: i have heard things about ssds and encryption problems, anyone know about that?
mjr_: i personally like RAID-10's with 2 tb drives
Chaang-Noi: yes, taxes here are a bitch. for tech stuff and cars, most stuff is a lot less however
DeCiB3l: goat do you have to overpay for everything because you don't buy it in the US?
Chaang-Noi: i have two 23 inch already
DeCiB3l: If you have the money
DeCiB3l: Chaang get an SSD and the biggest monitor
Chaang-Noi: that will hep me the most
Chaang-Noi: i think what i really need is an SSD
DeCiB3l: Chaang-Noi, then you need a single core
Rulother_: Isn't the next generation supposedly coming out soon from both sides? I would say wait til Oct if you can
Chaang-Noi: how much better is the i7?
DeCiB3l: Chaang well if you're a rich motherfucker than get an i7
Chaang-Noi: i dont like to waste
Chaang-Noi: money is not really a huge issue if the performance is there
Chaang-Noi: kako i could go with an i7 but i would need to buy a new board, is the i7 that much better?
Chaang-Noi: AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core is this a decent chip?
kakobreklaa: oh that, yeah as soon as kelinworth finds a nugget
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kakobreklaa: easier to ship
kakobreklaa: maybe its better than gold
Rulother_: It's there man
Rulother_: Fuck that, mine the moon.
mjr_: i could use ten moons worth of gold
DeCiB3l: thestringpuller, if your into piracy The Pirate Bay is celebrating their 10 year aniversary on August 10 in Stockholm
mjr_: i want to
DeCiB3l: It was in the thread
thestringpuller: kakobreklaa: I need you to hire your somalian goons to do a piracy job
Chaang-Noi: we use a lot of silver up every year, its getting hard and harder to mine it... silver long term is going to do well
mjr_: and each one of those collisions produces more gold than 10 moons
DeCiB3l: But that was the easiest pump-and-dump he has ever done, and these Bitcoin investors are so dumb nobody even noticed