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Rulother_: I bought around 25 games during that, I got some catching up to do lol.
thestringpuller: I miss the sale already.
Rulother_: I used "ActiveMining" to make sure that confusion wouldn't take place
tiberiusxvi: i dont see how they are a scam? i mean yes you are kind of late to the party buying shares now
tiberiusxvi: and their income seems to be from mining which makes sense
Rulother_: Just some of the people are so blindly following Ken, more so like a cult. The way they're bashing AM
Rulother_: If I didn't know better, I would say I was back in middle school reading some of these comments
Rulother_: The people on the ActiveMining forum make me laugh
mjr_: lol, you lasted an impressive amount of time
tiberiusxvi: well i chaangnoi's none existant ethics is what got him in trouble
jcpham: here's where i get off the train
jcpham: if you'd like to find the money i can get you that far
tiberiusxvi: hell probably have to forfit all of his known assets 500k to lawyers, 250k in fines and 1-2 years in jail
tiberiusxvi: since all the idiots activities are posted on a public forum
tiberiusxvi: apocalyptic: chaang will get charged in the DOJ case
Apocalyptic: "Permanently restraining and enjoining Defendants, and their officers, agents, servants, employees, attorneys, and all other persons in active concert or participation with them", that would mean Chang is involved too
jcpham: it's high. unsure where the figure comes from
dub: thats the highest bullshit estimate I've seen
jcpham: because they've quoted the foum thread verbatim
mjr_: i really really hate the forums
gribble: obsi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 42 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 45 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Obsi> it was closed out and delisted, can't be traded from what I know
PeterL_: anybody remember OBSI? That was a great investment ...
ThickAsThieves: he sucks you in eventually, and then you are like WHY did i answer him?!
ThickAsThieves: yep he's a black belt troll
Scrat: of all the trolls here tiberius is the best
Bugpowdr: Totally planting a buttonwood tree in my backyard
tiberiusxvi: mjr dont you have a tree to meet under to exchange bitcoins?
tiberiusxvi: like they care if its a scam or not or dubious lol
tiberiusxvi: leeches like TaT and chaangnoi basically slither around looking for some new trend to coat tail
Apocalyptic: is AMC the thing where TAT is on the board ?
tiberiusxvi: well amc does seem to have a legit income stream?
tiberiusxvi: other then that they mine and sell equipment and have already paid out 10x in dividends?
Rulother_: So Tiber, AMC, scam or no scam?
tiberiusxvi: im not pushing schemes and get rick quick scams like half this channel
tiberiusxvi: fabianB whats that got to do with anything
benkay: (you can tell by the excessive exclamation points and accidental '1')
Apocalyptic: if not mircea then someone else
Apocalyptic: well that's bound to happen anyway
tiberiusxvi: being a sociopath when he sees the utter idiots in bitcoinland of course he will take advantage of them
TomServo: (beside the battlebots)
TomServo: tiberiusxvi: what's your claim to fame?
tiberiusxvi: too dumb to do anything unique
ThickAsThieves: if any of you dont have tiberius on ignore, let me know when you are ready for my i-told-you-so
tiberiusxvi: guys like TaT and chaang noi are wannabes
tiberiusxvi: its like john smith in the US
dexX7: popescu is one of the most common names in romania, he said once
tiberiusxvi: mircea is levels above most of the idiots like TaT
tiberiusxvi: i figure his name is fake too
Stardust: "<tiberiusxvi> mircea popescu operates with a fake name out" // evidence the name is fake ?
tiberiusxvi: smartest of the bunch
tiberiusxvi: mircea popescu operates with a fake name out of some tiny village in romania
tiberiusxvi: the funniest part about all these jokers is they did it in a public forum
ozbot: 2013-07-23 BI: SEC Charges Texas Man With Running Bitcoin Ponzi Scheme
tiberiusxvi: hardly doubt you could afford even a days worth of lawyer time
ThickAsThieves: fyi TAT Investments began legal processes for covering ourselves already
tiberiusxvi: the point is both TaT and chaang noi are dubious characters looking to make a quick buck, so if they get accidently caught up in a scam they deserve it
Bugpowdr: just fortunate to catch AM on the explosive upside
Bugpowdr: Well... I'm not sure if it is skimming, or just buying direct and waiting a few days for appreciation before selling the PT shares
tiberiusxvi: that guy is always trying to find a passthru to skim
Bugpowdr: What about ThickAsThieves
tiberiusxvi: yea but theres no evidence of it
Bugpowdr: and they are
Bugpowdr: well... if us investors are buying, he is in trouble
tiberiusxvi: securities are the wild west there
Apocalyptic: <topace_home> thats the scary part
Apocalyptic: <topace_home> to federal or state licensing requirements"
Apocalyptic: <topace_home> individuals selling investments are typically subject
Apocalyptic: any individual issuing assets, even in bitcoin has to be properly registrated
tiberiusxvi: the point is treydon shavers white trash wont be the only disgusting nerd to go down
Bugpowdr: I'm not going to go dig up the wording
Apocalyptic: tiberiusxvi, you missed the annoucement
tiberiusxvi: its a virtual ledger, theres nothing illegal about running play money securities
Bugpowdr: no no, not true
Bugpowdr: need to register that shit
Bugpowdr: But even non-fraudlent securities are illegal to operate
Rulother_: But they can't go for what it's worth now, only what it was worth at the time.
tiberiusxvi: thats puts it into the decade + category for jail time
tiberiusxvi: so it went from a 5mil to 75mil case
tiberiusxvi: the problem is that bitcoin appreciated
Bugpowdr: Well... I think its likely that all securities issuers get in trouble
tiberiusxvi: chaang noi will end up spending all of his BTC bounty on lawyer fees to stay out of prison
tiberiusxvi: wasnt his passthrough the largest feeder?
tiberiusxvi: id say 60% chance he gets in trouble
Bugpowdr: yeah I think he is american
Bugpowdr: isn't he in thailand?
tiberiusxvi: chaang noi will end up getting owned in that one
tiberiusxvi: bugpowdr: there probably is an ongoing FBI investigation
Bugpowdr: I don't see any mention of anyone other than Trendon Shavers in the complaint
tiberiusxvi: his history is all over the forums
tiberiusxvi: chaang noi was a piece of shit who moved from scheme to scheme trying to ride the coat tails for personal profit
Rulother_: I can feel the hate
Bugpowdr: any link for the goat discussion?
VanCleef: i'd hate to be chaang noi right now
tiberiusxvi: SEC is just civil bullshit they can seize assets after the judgement
benkay: individuals at the sec looking to make names for themselves?
benkay: who's driving these?
tiberiusxvi: chaang noi will get in trouble once the FBI case is opened
tiberiusxvi: madoff only schemed like 50mil for himself out of the billions
Apocalyptic: and the payouts ofc
tiberiusxvi: ponzi profits tend to be low for the operator as you need the funds to pay out