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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you know this filing actuyally shows the us govt is really trying hard not to fuck up with btc.
mircea_popescu: they do claim the investments were securities however, i'm curious if that will be challenged by the parties.
Chaaaang-Noi: yeah just like i was the fist to invest in AM... im just a scum bag who hatees btc...
mircea_popescu: you know this filing actuyally shows the us govt is really trying hard not to fuck up with btc.
tiberiusix: chaang noi you were a scumbag with questionable ethics hence you made the perfect bitcoiner, you looked for trends/coat tails to ride for fast profits
mircea_popescu: they picked venue the easy way.
mircea_popescu: transactions and courses of business alleged herein occurred within the Eastern District of Texas.
mircea_popescu: found in and are inhabitants of McKinney, Texas; and because certain of the acts, practices,
mircea_popescu: Section 27 of the Exchange Act [15 U.S.C. §§ 77v(a) and 78aa] because Defendants may be
mircea_popescu: Venue is proper in this district under Section 22(a) of the Securities Act and
tiberiusix: thats nice to know
Chaaaang-Noi: he is a pretty good forum admin if you just look at that part
tiberiusix: it seems theymos has been involved in every single major scam so far
Chaaaang-Noi: or at least in the way he does business
Chaaaang-Noi: im not fan of theymos...
tiberiusix: or indirectly promoting them for financial gain
tiberiusix: the thing about theymos is hes been involved in alot of scams on that forum
Chaaaang-Noi: i kinda doubt tehy will charge theymos over the glbse stuff, seems like a whole different thing, and mostly in england...
tiberiusix: theymos is going to get owned with actively promoting various scams
Chaaaang-Noi: pirate will tell them i invested a lot of btc into pirate...
tiberiusix: and theymos WILL rat on you
tiberiusix: hes going to bring other people down
tiberiusix: you think pirate will keep his mouth shit?
Chaaaang-Noi: 50% pull that number from your ass?
tiberiusix: lol where do you think the trial will be
Chaaaang-Noi: also why would i go to the us?
Chaaaang-Noi: so the can freeze it?
tiberiusix: chaang noi you should be preparing liquid funds for your defense in the US.
Chaaaang-Noi: you just trollin
tiberiusix: man im not going to go build a case i couldnt give a shit
tiberiusix: yea but you were just an investor is the problem
Chaaaang-Noi: in what exactly? the chat room? lol
Chaaaang-Noi: oh is that all?
tiberiusix: yes you will be defending yourself in a criminal court, hence what i said to prepare 500-1mil USD
tiberiusix: chaang noi youve got logs posted all over the forums
Chaaaang-Noi: it has yet to be proven a pnzi
tiberiusix: because "theymos" told you so
tiberiusix: chaang noi the point is you were actively participating in a ponzi scheme
Chaaaang-Noi: it is now, but was it then? does that even matter?
tiberiusix: btc is a virtual currency that has value
tiberiusix: if someone scammed you out of personal property does it have to be money?
tiberiusix: they dont have to call it money
Chaaaang-Noi: im not so sure the DOJ will go on record and say yes, BTC is money
tiberiusix: so a few mil turned into tens of mil
tiberiusix: the problem was that bitcoin appreciated
Azelphur: let other people worry about all the legal crap :P
Chaaaang-Noi: does the DOJ think btc is money?
Azelphur: I'm glad I made the decision to get out of the politics bullshit and just work as a code monkey
Chaaaang-Noi: you assume the doj will follow up, that is just an assumption at this point
tiberiusix: chaang noi that isnt a indictment
Chaaaang-Noi: SEC will give the evidance to the justice department, so yeah the SEC is important
tiberiusix: its if the other alphabet FBI is involved
Chaaaang-Noi: and yes someone is working with the SEC and i know some of them
tiberiusix: its obvious someone is providing the feds with info
Chaaaang-Noi: not a defence, just shows i doubt theymos is working with the fbi
tiberiusix: theymos is a loser hell do anything to save his own skin
Chaaaang-Noi: theymos is one of the few americans who could
tiberiusix: because one of those nerds you were partnered with theymos will just rat you out
tiberiusix: chaang noi id say its 50/50 that you get caught up
dub: you can't get me with your laws and things
Chaaaang-Noi: well who wants to pay taxes?
tiberiusix: dude the guy was in the chat claiming how he didnt want to pay taxes
Chaaaang-Noi: well, never smart to brag about that, even if it cant be proven
tiberiusix: i mean how DUMB can you be to use your real name and commit all sorts of US crimes lol
tiberiusix: voorhees was publicly stating he was avoiding taxes too in panama
Chaaaang-Noi: bitinstant is now dead as a money transmiter right?
tiberiusix: he should have never disclosed himself publicly all over the place
Chaaaang-Noi: but really no one can prove they sent me money cuxz no one did...
tiberiusix: i warned voorhees months ago in the channel
Chaaaang-Noi: yeah pirate does not look so good really... he took usd out from an exchange with his ids...
dub: voorhees is already in trouble
Chaaaang-Noi: yeah they need evidance...
tiberiusix: theres tons of it
Chaaaang-Noi: yeah, but they need proof
tiberiusix: the government takes awhile to gather evidence you know that
tiberiusix: chaang bullshit the scam just collapsed last year
Chaaaang-Noi: if they could do it they would have already
tiberiusix: and i bet voorhees gets in trouble too within 6months
Chaaaang-Noi: depends on the evidance, honestly i think its going to be hard for them even to 100% nail pirate
tiberiusix: its 100% guarantee criminal proceedings come out, just nobody knows who is named in them
tiberiusix: knowing they are nerds they will do anything to save themselves
Chaaaang-Noi: i wonder if theymos and glbse are working with the fbi, hmmm
tiberiusix: chaang you were trying to ride coat tails to make a quick buck
tiberiusix: you werent just trolling.
tiberiusix: id say its a coin flip if you get indicted when the criminala ction comes out
Chaaaang-Noi: what i did, and what i troll are different...
tiberiusix: thats nice, you can tell the court that
Chaaaang-Noi: i did what i did at the request of theymos
tiberiusix: man your all over the forums running a "pass thru" into a 70mil ponzi scheme
Chaaaang-Noi: i never sent coins to anyone other than glbse
tiberiusix: after the heat came down
Chaaaang-Noi: i ran a feeder fund eh? then i got money from someone? who was that?
tiberiusix: chaang noi you actively ran a feeder into the scheme
tiberiusix: i said for weeks the pirate shit going to come back at you
Chaaaang-Noi: who did i take money from then?
Chaaaang-Noi: tiberslav, you just dont know what you are talking about
Chaaaang-Noi: i never took money from anyone other than glbse...
tiberiusix: even if you win the case, an indictment alone will cost you 500k minimum to stay out of US prisons.
tiberiusix: you were feeding the scam.
Chaaaang-Noi: i troll oin a forum, so the fuck what?