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jcpham: it's
the 400 GH/s "product"
mircea_popescu: jcpham wtf i
thought
they had a chip hashing 2 months ago
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ThickAsThieves: being
that I can't control all people and all
things,
that right is reserved
Wild0wnes: "8.
To specify minimum or maximum redemption
terms and eligibility for Pre-IPO redemptions"
Wild0wnes: okay so on xbond.... if on your next IPO how will you keep from double selling stock.... are you going
to change
the Units Outstanding on
the IPO as you get pre-IPO orders?
mircea_popescu: well if past history is any guide, btc is about
to pop
pankkake: is
that a bot
that praises "Ken" every five minutes?
thestringpuller: you can always hedge your bets on BFL not delivering
though
pankkake: however
the part where users have
to sign
their actions is not very noob-friendly. unless I use something like openpgpjs…
Wild0wnes: actually i'm still reading it. just struck me as unlikely
that you write a blog but don't do your own PR
mircea_popescu: rather
than re-implement solutions
to already well solved problems. solutions which are broken but have
the dubious merit
that well... everyone's an innovator in his own estimation.
mircea_popescu: pankkake kinda why i make
things, so people with any sense steal
them.
thestringpuller: MPEX
the organization should be
the only
thing
that can access
that key right? So if something is signed with
that key it's verfiable no?
pankkake: I like
this system. I
think I'm going
to "steal" it :)
pankkake: ah yes, and it's easy
to backup
them
mircea_popescu: so from any signed stat
the string of
transactions
takes you
to
the current one.
mircea_popescu: which is a better system
than
this "collective memory" approach.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so
that means if you
trust mpex you can
trust your list
Wild0wnes: i was really interested in
that post of yours until i got
to "my PR chick"
mois: just
take a look at
the list, see if your address and shares are shown and if not scream "HAX!"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller
there's a reason gpg signatures are good.
mircea_popescu: that's my point. list is kind of useless as you can't distinguish between
the case where exchange deleted/replaced a holder's address
thestringpuller: the point being you can't
trust
the exchange
to make a valid list?
mois: something went wrong or
the address is from another wallet?
mois: sign a msg on
the blockchain with your username of another exchange and let
the issuer of
the assets
transfer
the shares on
to another exchange
mois: i was just wondering about it if
there is something like
this on BTCT, since BTCT makes a copy of BF list every 30 mins
mois: on
the scam case not much, just create another one for every account you use your "double-spent" money on
mircea_popescu: a,
that. yes,
that's not a bad
thing but it has nothing
to do with what we were discussing
mois: on registering an account you are creating a new address
to use as your public address and in
the case
the exchange goes down, you can claim your shares with
this address (signing it)
pankkake: the adresses are
there
to prove you're
the owner actually - as you can use
them
to sign messages
mois: yeah,
that's what i meant
pankkake: bitcoin adresses are pretty much anonymous.
they can register multiple accounts
mois: hm :/
this is a big plus on BF side...even
though it would be still possible
jurov: ActM was highly suspect from
this,
too
mircea_popescu: you should probably read
the past coupla day's logs here.
ozbot: The anatomy of a scam. pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mois: mircea_popescu: was just wondering, what is stopping some scammer from buying some of his own IPO shares,
transfer
the BTC he received back into his BTCT acc and buy some again...just
to generate some kind of hype...would be nice
to see if
there are some people out
there whos shares hold get bigger like
this.
Wild0wnes: sorry can't post yet on bitcointalk i'm I asking
too many questions? I don't want
to be
the annoying guy
pankkake: samsung smart
tv =
telescreen?
mois: is
there an asset list on BTCT like on BF with all
the shares held and sorted
to one anonymous btc address?
Wild0wnes: TAT just
trying
to figure out if
there will be IPOs
that I couldn't pre-IPO into with under 10 bitcoins
Hollywoodundead: I
think, so you can watch yourself on
tv and be like "I'm famous"
mircea_popescu: "The flaws in Samsung Smart
TVs, which have now been patched, enabled hackers
to remotely
turn on
the
TVs' built-in cameras without leaving any
trace of it on
the screen. While you're watching
TV, a hacker anywhere around
the world could have been watching you. "
Wild0wnes: sos
TAT, has Pre-IPO period been defined yet?
benkay: IRC = requires learning a
thing.
Wild0wne_: what is
the command
to switch back
to my registered nick?
Rulother_: I like
the whole new CIA fiasco
that came up with Bengzia
ozbot: NSA lexicon: How James Clapper and other U.S. officials mislead
the American public without lying. -
pankkake: just
take over #HavelockInvestments :p
ThickAsThieves: i dont
think
the world is ready for a
TATI channel yet
ThickAsThieves: people will get news from
the exchanges, and from forums, reddit, etc
ThickAsThieves: Each IPO will be announced ahead of
time, and a
timeframe will be set for Pre-IPO redemption exchanges
Wild0wne_: i mean since its via email... and its first come first serve....
the IPO
then is sort of happening in your email box
Wild0wne_: so will
there be any way for people
to know a new IPO of your is being bought up via
the Pre-IPO redemption?
pankkake: Wild0wne_: people will be able
to pay more
than face value if
they want
to. but it woulndn't be a very good idea
Korbman: it's harder
to pump and dump bonds when
they're being sold at a fixed rate
Wild0wne_: guess everyone is being quiet about
this
thing because
they don't want
to pump and dump
this one
ThickAsThieves: [10:43] <Wild0wne_> does
this mean
that whatever your next IPO is could (in
theory) be sold out before it even opens? <<< In
theory, yes
Wild0wne_: does
this mean
that whatever your next IPO is could (in
theory) be sold out before it even opens?
Wild0wne_: so i have a question nobody seems
to be asked...