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mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at the ranch, http://www.thedailysheeple.com/feds-visit-family-who-googled-backpacks-pressure-cookers-but-the-nsa-isnt-watching-you_082013
mircea_popescu: i must admit they're pretty ghood
thestringpuller: how do you like those 9 so far?
thestringpuller: and now we know who made that trade
kidkrypto: dw working now, mashed my f5 too hard
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I scoured the shit our of Trilema, only got 9 so far: https://gist.github.com/leffuy/750a4291264fa2de03a5
dexX7: tl;tr reputable seller was scammed by buyer who faked messages for an alleged trade which never happend
dexX7: and the follow up - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1jeq7n/follow_up_on_do_not_ever_use_localbitcoin_escrow/
mircea_popescu: check that shit out.
mircea_popescu: dude eve is like... more advanced than bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: "Every leader who would rather be in charge of something badly run than part of something well run is not the CEO of their EVE corp, they are the CEO of your EVE corp. And its up to you if they ever learn this or not."
Wild0wnes: is there any other ways to read the bitcointalk forums? like a listserve or something?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, up to whoever makes the list
thestringpuller: do the two I just posted count?
mircea_popescu: well, not that i know. but now there's a 1 btc bounty for a top 20 of my best insults.
thestringpuller: or one of my favorites: It.s a wonder you manage to find the keyboard.
thestringpuller: like: You know, just the new kid on the baseball team makes a proposal to go get drunk the night before the game. Just a proposal.
thestringpuller: is there a list of your best insults?
thestringpuller: hey mircea_popescu this is a weird question but
mircea_popescu: great quote of the day.
mircea_popescu: in the Louvre, and at the Court of France."
mircea_popescu: Henri the Great, wanted a fagot to light a fire in the month of January,
mircea_popescu: "Posterity will hardly believe that the Queen of England, granddaughter of
Namworld: arg, was not supposed to autopaste the whole thing.
Namworld: [00:40] <laque> did someone just buy 1 share to ego boost?
mircea_popescu: and somehow magically all the "press" from end to end won't be running "OMG KICKSTARTER IS A SCAM" headlines tomorrow ?
mircea_popescu: pigeons no wai. this is possible with kickstarter projects ?!!?! ?! ?!
ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread
kleeck: Awwww shit. KSlaughter is back from eAsic. Report coming ASAP. Hold on to your butts, kids.
dexX7_: i think it's not to difficult ;)
arij: can i just buy a new yubikey? are they easy to set up?
dexX7_: that's what the yubico support told me, but i have no first hand experience
dexX7_: https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=rankings&section=teams tean amc
Graet: coz i was wondering same thing
Graet: their profile says they have 6 avalons
Hollywood: i dont know yet .i am trying to figure that out
mircea_popescu: Namworld ok then :p
mircea_popescu: Hollywood i don't get this. what are they paying dividends out of ?
ozbot: BitBet, July 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Namworld: Eh, then my word should be enough to give em some credit too
mircea_popescu: i don't. i give Namworld all the credit because him i know.
thestringpuller: i give all of the bitvps team credit*
Namworld: phungus/d34th left but did work. Arij had most of the workload.
thestringpuller: I give you all credit but this made smile nice and wide today!
mircea_popescu: fucking hole he had to pull it out of too
thestringpuller: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E&gid=1 - this has made my month end with a smile :D
thestringpuller: congrats Namworld you have completely turned Bitvps around
Namworld: I think BitVPS shares were already priced with full dividend value all along.
KRS1: Get on that XBOND fools
kidkrypto: any affil program for that
Graet: probably, they are investing in a rental property thing and a irl gold mioning company
ThickAsThieves: wavedigit, there is no dollar value pegged to XBOND
Diablo-D3: do you think people in bitcoin would invest in a large scale green energy project
wavedigit: for example, if 1 btc would get worth 1000 dollars by tomorrow, what then?
wavedigit: ThickAsThieves: how does the bond price relate to the USD appreciation of bitcoin?
ThickAsThieves: turnaround time
ThickAsThieves: since there are limits in redemption
ThickAsThieves: assuming I made no money with the money in the interim
ThickAsThieves: fter they had collected 5%
ThickAsThieves: KRS1, if everyone wants to redeem all at once, then I profit on the 95% redemption
Diablo-D3: (from a purely technical perspective, I agree with their assessment on cloud computing)
Diablo-D3: since there is a narrow window into which to get that done, and the next cloud boom wont be for another 2-3 years
Diablo-D3: Ive also been advised to do the energy company first
KRS1: i took strategic management in school- so like..if you have an energy company one company would be complimentary to the other by providing it electricity at a huge cost savings...its like the cab company buying the repair shop next door for its fleet
KRS1: more equity than req'd
Diablo-D3: Ive been advised by people who are a lot smarter about business than I am (and I respect their opinion greatly) that DMC 2.0 should be split into two different companies
KRS1: one question..if that money is being put to work, what if everyone all of a sudden wants to redeem
ThickAsThieves: my job is to put that money to work to make a larger than 18.25% annual gain
ThickAsThieves: the idea is that XBOND has enough utility to make it that much more liquid and usable
ThickAsThieves: now, I have more equity than is required to back the current amount as well
thestringpuller: EXPLAIN mr. ThickAsThieves
wavedigit: who's debt is it? TAT's? So when someone wants to recall (it's called like that?) some of the shares in face value then basically TAT has to borrow some btc?
thestringpuller: he pays interest on the debt, then you can trade the bond back for your principal
wavedigit: but what is it backed by? just the btc that other people gave for the bonds or TAT's own btc?
thestringpuller: now back to my original calculations :P
thestringpuller: wavedigit: but that means low profit
thestringpuller: but because it backed by 95% face value at any time (5% being the cost of liquidity), it's meant to be held for a long period of time
wavedigit: so I'm usually unaware of these kinds of things
thestringpuller: wavedigit: yes that's what it means
wavedigit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalping_(trading) ... does this mean that it will have a price which is not meant to be?
thestringpuller: so ideally you want to hold the bond like a savings account and liquidate either yearly or semi-yearly, and add the interest gained to your cashflow
thestringpuller: if you redeem for 95% value you have to wait for 100+ days of dividends for it to pay itself off
thestringpuller: if it trades above those are people scalping the market and at that point you should sell if you want to liquidate
thestringpuller: as I said you can redeem each bond for 95% face value with the issuer (TATI)
wavedigit: or above that
wavedigit: so what happens if it doesn't sell at face value, but sells below that
thestringpuller: TATI will pay you 95% of the face value at any time for redemption to liquid BTC
KRS1: isnt there always a trade-off between liquidity and profitability
thestringpuller: which means you have to wait 100 days before it pays itself off after redemption
wavedigit: liquidity = people keep buying those bonds?
thestringpuller: What the fuck is wrong with you people.
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla can answer that
thestringpuller: he should just give me access to his private journal and black books so I can market make for him on Bitfunder :P
thestringpuller: trying to figure out holding periods and stuff
thestringpuller: no I'm doing maths on ThickAsThieves assets
ThickAsThieves: he's trying to hack bitcoin
rulother-gs: You doing your math homework over there?
saulimus: hm, my btct portfolio simply says "Error: invalid ticker name. Capitals, numbers, periods, and dashes only please."
Hollywood: 75% sold out TaT
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://mises.org/money/2s10.asp MPOE is Rothbard's vision.