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pankkake: GPG GUIs actually confused me more
than
the command-line
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I
thought you could just register
the main and subkeys
to
the WOT key list and just give out
the fingerprint?
mircea_popescu: i
think
teh gpg is really counterintuitive or something
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well...
there was a rash of
them, but it abated.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: didn't
the idiots emailing you about
the fees without reading
the faq piss you off just a lil' bit?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i can start
to see where
the "for your personal amusement" part could come in
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller
the funny part is,
that quote's older
than 2/3 of smidge's index.
thestringpuller: Ah
this good 'ol quote (speaking of scammors): .Shady ROMANIAN character opens up unregistered bitcoin options exchange (complete with HTML from 1993) on his personal website (which also hosts porn) and charges exorbitant fees just
to join, while constantly accusing pretty much everyone else in
the bitcoin community of being a scammer, and, along with his (possibly virtual) -PR lackey, acts like a loudmouthed douchebag . but apperantly scams no
mircea_popescu: i recall we discussing accounting standards and me saying just use an0
thats what its for
ThickAsThieves: of course you informed me
this was a stupid waste of
time
ThickAsThieves: I had run
the idea by you
to start work on BALS,
the Bitcoin Asset Listing Standards
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's simple. if you put in domain.com,
the avatar is loaded from domain.com/avatar.png
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: All :
the avatars here don.t use gravatar, instead look for an avatar.png file in your domain. << When you got a minute could you direct me a
to a faq or something explaining
that?
thestringpuller: BTCGARDEN should hire a futures expert and use
their capital for something useful
mircea_popescu: since i won'd do it myself cause i know shitall about mining, and nobody else does it basically because nobody else has
the capital
thestringpuller: so ultimately you'll need someone with
the spare capital
to act as
the anchor?
mircea_popescu: if you
think about it,
that's half of asicminer's
total profits, and for
that matter prolly > 10% of its entire profit over its entire lifetime forever.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: are difficulty movements
that much larger
than
the spring price movements?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves were you here back when he came in
to like... i dunno, cuss me out as a pr exercise i guess
ozbot: BitFunder.Com - Join
the crowd, every BIT helps
ThickAsThieves: dont confuse
that with me saying a day
trader cant make money with
them
dexX7: in all seriousness: do you really really
think actm, lab and garden are scams?
dexX7: well.
that indeed could be a way
dexX7: use ipo money
to pay divs
thestringpuller: how can you sell mining bonds if you don't yet own
them mr.
ThickAsThieves ?
rulother-gs: If
that's
the case I should start up an ipo lol
dexX7: well,
that's not necessary connected
ThickAsThieves: preorder mining equipment
then resell it before it exists
assbot: Last
trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00082509 BTC [+]
assbot: Things which are alike, in nature, grow
to look alike, and
the speaking stones have lain a long
time lookin' at
the sun.
thestringpuller: hard
to provide because it's harder
to price
than options which are difficult enough as is
to price
kleeck: Ha. Yeah. I'm not interested. Maybe
the market needs a
true difficulty hedge
that is easy
to understand. "mining insurance"?
kleeck: I don't know
the details.
kleeck: DMS has an offering
that is essentially
that.
thestringpuller: we can hedge price, but I've racked my brain over hedging on mining and it seems
the answer
to
the question "how do I hedge mining" is "you don't"
thestringpuller: what do you
think
the market needs for
the diff futures market
to mature like
the options market?
mircea_popescu: there was a mm a while back but
things diodn't work out so well for him.
dexX7: well, i guess you failed with your expansion
than :p
mircea_popescu: dexX7 yeah.
thing is s.mpoe was over half a mil btc back when asicminer was worth ~0.
dexX7: lab is
tiny compared
to garden with 7k or 14k now
VanCleef: and currently own 0% of
the mining network?
VanCleef: but both
those companies are worth about hmm over 35million dollars?
dexX7: i guess avalon made much more
than fc
dexX7: well,
that's an estimate. 20 % hashing = 720 btc + hardware sales ... but
this far away from constant
though - maybe 500 / day is more accurate
dexX7: does anyone know how much coins avalon and friedcat made per month or whatever? veery roughly is okay.. just
to get a feeling for
the magnitude..
joesmoe: It's cheap
to get around, food is cheap, lots of people in south america like
to
travel
too
joesmoe: i highly recommend south america, it's
the best place in
the world
to backpack right now imho
joesmoe: well if you ever need any help planning, I've been
traveling around for years.
joesmoe: hehe chillen. About
to head over
to Sziget festivatl
tomorrow in hugary.
Chaaaang-Noi: tomorrow will suck, after
that, should be awesome
dexX7: good
thing
they are
dexX7: just saying how
things are done at dax, not
that
this concept should be used
mircea_popescu: dexX7
the volatility part is
true but also very problematic in btc
dexX7: smidge: a company is excluded from
the dax if it's weight exceeds 10 % or it's 30d volatility is heigher
than 250 %
smidge: if anyone has more
to add pls post in
teh
thread
smidge: anyways bbl, intersting discussion.
thx
mircea_popescu: well... like any garage sale, people like
the crap buckets.
smidge: you mean shining stars and
two other buckets full of crap :)
Chaaaang-Noi: limited number of buyers, prices seem
to be fixed
Chaaaang-Noi: im not sure anything is valid on
the mp exchange
smidge: thats what it boils down
to
smidge: two categories, or
the compromise listed above
mircea_popescu: but anyway, here are your problems : put am, mpex (and used
to be sdice) in
there, you've got 2 mn+ btc wiping everyone else into irrelevance. you don't put any of
them well... it's weird parade. (which is wjhy i suggested making
two categories)