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ThickAsThieves: he may have asked
them
to sign an NDA at
the open of
talks
kleeck: Now I'd like
to hear some freakin' REAL news come out of ActM regarding
the NRE...
ozbot: [ActiveMining]
The Official Active Mining Discussion
Thread
kleeck: How long ago was
that, dexX7?
nubbins`: the free people and
the gaolers of
the world:
their equal contempt for
that other kind of people."
nubbins`: keepers decide
to move you
they will move you, and
that decision has absolutely nothing
to do with you. Sure,
they'll represent it otherwise, especially if
they may extract amusement out of you by doing so, much like a cat will play with a captured mouse. Go ahead, argue with me, explain how wrong I am and how great it all is. Make our day, mine and
theirs equally, as
that's
the one bridge
that uni
nubbins`: "Do you see anything wrong with
the picture? Sure, you don't want
to go
to jail. I have news for you, Gerald: you're already in jail.
This is what jail is,
this is what jail means,
this is what it feels like. You're already
there. Whether you move from
the large jail cell hosting everyone else you know
to one of
the smaller cells isn't even up
to you, because, again,
this is what jail is. When your
deadweasel: nice, I like it when
the girl responds directly.
thx nubbins`
ozbot: SEC Charges Bitcoin Savings and
Trust (BTCST) as Ponzi Scheme
VanCleef: so...the winklevoss
twins invented a ponzi scheme and called it bitcoin?
nubbins`: mpoe-pr came up with a suspiciously lucid post on
this
topic
the other day
Scrat: and dexter will
take him out
VanCleef: I don't want
Tat
to go
to jail :(
nubbins`: Anyway, all
this gov't posturing does nothing but encourage people
to prepare
Hollywood: <ThickAsThieves> News reports indicate
that USD may have been used
to help finance
the flight and activity of fugitives. <heh
ThickAsThieves: you cant build
this castle of finance
til it can barely stand under it's own weight, and not expect something
to knock it over
nubbins`: The fact
that
the USD is
the all-backing, all-powerful unit of measure for every other currency is not lost on
the government
nubbins`: The Romans built roads,
the British had
their navy, USA had
the a-bomb, and now has
the almighty USD
Namworld: Well I can't wait for robots with
true AI
ThickAsThieves: "undermining financial institutions"
that's
the
true issue
Namworld: [10:07] <Urushiol> my opinion, anyway, is
that
technology always ends up winning. And
that's what bitcoin is
to me - a
technology.
Urushiol: my opinion, anyway, is
that
technology always ends up winning. And
that's what bitcoin is
to me - a
technology.
nubbins`: Nah, I
think it's more high-level
than
that
Urushiol: maybe
that's
the
takeaway here. maybe
the US is displeased with
the notion
that
their currency may be usurped as
the medium for
this
type of activity because it lessens its global utility and value, by extension
nubbins`: News reports indicate
that
the internet is still scary for old people, politicians
ThickAsThieves: News reports indicate
that USD may have been used
to help finance
the flight and activity of fugitives.
nubbins`: "News reports indicate
that Bitcoins may have been used
to help finance
the flight and activity of fugitives."
Namworld: I'm still waiting for more quotes of people suggesting
to
take down Bitcoin, but it seems
the general public is starting
to get
the word about how it is.
ThickAsThieves: challenge, and identify staffing and other resources devoted
to
this effort."
ThickAsThieves: consultation with
the Department and other Federal partners,
to provide a briefing no later 120 days after
the enactment of
this Act on
the nature and scale of
the risk posed by such ersatz currency, both in financing illegal enterprises and in undermining financial institutions.
The briefing should describe
the FBI efforts in
the context of a coordinated Federal response
to
this
ThickAsThieves: "Money laundering.--The Committee understands
that Bitcoins and other forms of peer-to-peer digital currency are a potential means for criminal,
terrorist or other illegal organizations and individuals
to illegally launder and
transfer money. News reports indicate
that Bitcoins may have been used
to help finance
the flight and activity of fugitives.
The Committee directs
the FBI, in
kakobrekla: it has like skipped
this dead branch in evolution called css
kakobrekla: mpex will look just fine when
that happens
Namworld: Articles websites are starting
to do
that. Soon you'll have
to have a clipboard app visible on screen at all
time
to make sure you're not getting something else. Like spam instead of your
text.
ThickAsThieves: In response
to FSA’s witch hunt, Max Keiser’s Heisenberg Capital set
to
triple bitcoin related investments in 2013
dexX7: i
thought he was some kind of staff member/admin
dexX7: "It has come
to my ears
that Bitstamp was sold a few days ago" - "I would kindly ask you
to please contact our support for any questions you may have regarding our services. support@bitstamp.net"
kleeck: put your finger on
the assbot.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 1.00931000 BTC
to 2`018`620 shares, 50 satoshi per share
hhrlot: probably
they are not even good at language
Scrat: "As advised earlier developer do not communicate with users directly and
they do not have email access and probably
they are not even good at language so
that is why we are
there here
to communicate issues
to
them."
mircea_popescu: then "respectable" folk like gmaxwell discuss "my" channel of "sycophants".
totally, dude. we're all sycophants over here.
VanCleef: i cant stop laughing hey,
the best part is, i'm even getting pm's asking where
they can buy shares
ozbot: Amethyst - IPO finished, shares now
trading at 2btc each, WE'RE OFF
TO
THE SUN
VanCleef: :) Huge spike of intrest in Amethyst
today.
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns
the last message matching
the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom
the message came; --in requires a channel
the message was sent
to; --on requires a network
the message was sent on; --with requires some string
that had
to be in
the message; --regexp requires a regular expression
the message (1 more message)
Namworld: Anyway. Heading off for
the night. Pretty uneventful day.
Diablo-D3: it means I get
to buy 2 more DMC back
this month
Namworld: Well
the details did list assets as 15 BTC and 2354 BTC loaned
to amazingrando. Since nothing was happening with Amazingrando, figured
that should be returned. I should have done
that long ago. Just paid extra by not paying
to my own shares.
Namworld: Yeah,
there was an email with
that.
Graet: it would but
that asicminer didnt ship most of its hashrate, just some novelty items ;)
bobbabad: Would be interesting
to know who has shipped
the majorty of
the network hash so far.. avalon or am?
Namworld: GH or ghz, cause
there's a big difference
iceburg: ill be VERY interested
to see what
their simulations return
iceburg: not a master no, but I have friends in
the field, and I asked
them
to look into it as part of my due diligence
bobbabad: unless
they are all scammers.. which
they might be...
they seem
to have pretty creadibly background
to back
their promisses
Namworld: chip size matter
too... for
the same process size, a bigger chip can have more loop going at SHA-256. But still... huge difference in predictions/claims
iceburg: i dont believe
that for
the same reason
iceburg: also whats going
to happen
to hashfast if actm issued a C and D for using
their product name?
iceburg: the internal signal interference will ruin
those chips
iceburg: yes well I dont believe
that 400ghz will work on 28nm
iceburg: so
they expect
to get better efficiency and faster speed at double
the die size?
bobbabad: Active mining claims around 15GH per chip on 28nm... HashFast claims 400GH on 28nm..
thats more
then 10x difference once same archiecture
iceburg: especially at 130 nm.
that effieciency is better
than bfl and
they are on 45nm
iceburg: if
they want
that efficiency
iceburg: they wont be able
to gaet a lot of speed out of
those chips
dub: whats an efficient one
then, lol
dub: or fasthash or whatever
the patently stupid name is
dub: thats hashfast I
think
dub: got flat rate power
though
dub: with 62gh at 350w I'm good
till about 7.5 billion diff at .05kwh
dub: bgupta:
theres a bunch of calculators around
bgupta: (Using current USD/btc since predicting
the future price is a stab in
the dark)
dub: its doing it with funding and scale
to keep up with
technology and efficiency
bgupta: So at current usd/btc, what would nethash or diff need
to climb
to,
to make mining (excluding sunk cost) break even at 0.05USD per KWH. (Which is about
the cheapest cost of bulk electricty)
Trying
to estimate how quickly
this ASIC
thing is gonna play out and only be profitable for
the chepeast producers.
Namworld: I'll have
to bust
their doors and investigate. If
they already found one, I'll just
take it and slap an AutisticMiner sticker on it.
Namworld: Cause I'm pretty sure if
that kid existed, US agencies would already have
their hands all over it.
dub: I get
the feeling
they burned most of it doing dumb shit
bobbabad: and looking at
their youtube video(s)
they seem
to have a pretty fancy facility going
bobbabad: uh, why so?
they must have shit
ton of money banked
dub: I'd be surprised if
they last long enough
to ship
the preorders
bobbabad: You guys
think BFL got something next gen
that
they will just start
to ship without pre-orders one of
these days?
dub: sooner or later someone is goign
to come in and do it properly
Namworld: They can't make it in
time
to hit big (IF
they are even legit
to start with)