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gecko_x8: why do we have to sufer this shit?
Duffer1: i think bitfury and knc are legit
pankkake: they'll fail, the others will fail more
pankkake: of course by "first" I don't mean "on time"
pankkake: anyway, I ignore all labcoin news by default, because I ignore TheSwede75 the retard
Duffer1: "experience" assumes they learn, offering more pre-orders (this time without paypal) it tells us they haven't learned
pankkake: and the others are clueless wanabees, or scammers (no difference in the point of customers or investors)
gecko_x8: wtf is this shit
pankkake: they make a great point, they have the experience now
Rulother: The 10% fee transfer is such a slap in the face
Duffer1: it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens pankkake lol
pankkake: I am now starting to think BFL will be the first to deliver 28 nm…
gecko_x8: sweden has too many niggers to uphold
gecko_x8: not from fucking sweden that's fpr sure
gecko_x8: where will they get the electricity?
Duffer1: don't believe them?
gecko_x8: six terahashes my ass
gecko_x8: fuck that shit
gecko_x8: "TLDR; Things are going as planned with no delays as of yet. Labcoin expects to hash at approx 6TH within 3-4 weeks and 50TH+ by mid to late October. Serial production run of chips will start early Sept. Pictures of chips, schematics and miners etc. will be posted as they become available. Website is undergoing redesign and will feature a real-time mining statistic as soon as the mining
gecko_x8: "- The first run of chips will be built into miners immediately and Labcoin expects to be live and hashing @ around 6TH within the next 3-4 weeks."
dexX7: yesterday there was one "with a good feeling about labcoin news"... ;)
gecko_x8: wtf is this shit
gecko_x8: fuck this shit
Hollywood: Well, Mircea does not deserve to be mentioned with some of those others
Hollywood: Lol, yeah thinking about it
louong: I would like to see a board with Josh Zerlan/Sonny from BFL, Mircea P/MPOE-PR, Ken from Active Miner and Luke-Jr on it just for the laughs
Hollywood: This will be the best membership drive they have, people buying just to vote n0 :(
Namworld: WAIT.... it's a ploy to sell memberships
Namworld: I'll buy membership to vote no.
ozbot: [DISCUSS]Luke-Jr is standing for election to the board of the Bitcoin Foundation
Hollywood: If he gets voted in, the whole place goes to shit
Hollywood: Well, there goes the neighborhood.
dexX7: is there a way to extract google auth secret keys or do i have to turn 2fa off and on again and save the qr picture? (in case of btct for example)
ozbot: [DISCUSS]Luke-Jr is standing for election to the board of the Bitcoin Foundation
kakobrekla: what stupidity is this
kleeck: MAKE THEM COINS!
Hollywood: for all the people that don't want to go to the forum
Rulother: Makes me think of Futurama
afrotec: DeadTerra, hows the icemachine
Rulother: First time in a while, I've seen the bid higher than the ask on labcoin
kakobrekla: davout tru dat
Rulother: private money for my private time, awwwe yeah
dexX7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcIbEGjEYTc "bitcoin is legal tender in germany"
dexX7: hahahaha the stupid press
jcpham: how about that diff
ozbot: Cointerra Announces 2 TH/s ASIC Bitcoin Miner - The Genesis Block
mircea_popescu: obviously, they built it in the desert.
mircea_popescu: The NSA data center in Bluffdale could require as many as 1.7 million gallons of water per day to operate and keep computers cool.
mircea_popescu: <res|work> chetty: yeah, that's broken clipping…
TAT_Investments: We tried to make it a desirable buy
TAT_Investments: we've discussed it a lot about whether to try to issue more bonds to control price, but currently we will not
Rulother: Not sure where I got that from :)
mircea_popescu: also, tons of s.mpoe shares around so
TAT_Investments: Rulother, no, I warned that if you overpay for XBOND (whether sold by TATI or anyone) you run the risk of loss in the event we do a callback
mircea_popescu: i didn;t want that sort of thing, it stinks to me.
mircea_popescu: well smg would have been a little confusing for people. s.mg is not the publisher of eve.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Just curious, how come you decided to associate 1Bitcoin with MPOE shares? Vs say, S.MG, or something new?
Rulother: Wasn't tat going to release more shares of xbond if it reached over .00105?
mircea_popescu: too good this shit.
mircea_popescu: "It’s no matter if a student comes to the conclusion that 3 x 4 = 11. So long as they can explain how they made this erroneous determination they go home with an ‘A’."
gecko_x8: i know that
mircea_popescu: however, the book you're thinking about wasn;'t written by him,
mircea_popescu: yes dude, i know. made a fortune on the dip, lost most of it,
gecko_x8: Livermoore used to trade with Bert Seligman
gecko_x8: in the 1920 americas
gecko_x8: Livermoore started out in the 'bucket shops'
gecko_x8: and it has a lot of similarities to the current btc environment
gecko_x8: it's the story of Jesse Livermoore
gecko_x8: mircea_popescu i was referring to the book 'reminiscences of a stock operator', which is avail for download on the net
mircea_popescu: how hard would it be for scammers to scam, in thsi context ?
mircea_popescu: this is one of those guys who walks the right side, and all the info is published.
mircea_popescu: ok. now tell me again about how poor people are doing research and coming out ahead by investing.
mircea_popescu: have they supported it because i have ? perhaps, maybe, to some degree. as a shortcut, cause they know i can think.
mircea_popescu: so did bugpowder, so did most of the vets in thuis channel.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong witjh that.
gecko_x8: well i'm not that poor, but btc has been one of my best investments ever since i started buying at 17 EUR
mircea_popescu: no revenue, no business model, no history of the operator, nothing.
mircea_popescu: because if you take that away, there's literally nothing.
mircea_popescu: the only reason they're going in is because they perceive others are.
mircea_popescu: gecko_x8 but they aren't NOT following the crowd. they ARE following the crowd.
mjr_1: if not, then I would say that you are going to be the guy who is late to the party (the one holding the bag)
mjr_1: are you SO savvy and so "in the know" that you have an edge in this information?
gecko_x8: but if a poor person attempts to not follow the crowd by getting into a risky asset like btc, that's wrong?
mircea_popescu: gecko_x8 we are discussing statistics. there's no room for anecdote in there.
mjr_1: if you are buying something because you "heard it was hot" think about it
mircea_popescu: poor people are conditioned to follow the crowd. and the crowd is usually a crowd of sheep, being more or less methodically exploited.
gecko_x8: he should never have even tried?
mircea_popescu: you get people come here all the time going "hey guyse, you're all buying X scam right" ?
gecko_x8: how about jesse livermoore then?
gecko_x8: but.. so if you are poor, you should never attempt to fix that by trading?
mircea_popescu: which is obviously being exploited all the time.
mircea_popescu: i am saying that the expectation for something OUTSIDE to extract them from their predicament is 1. baseless and 2. a security hole in their software.
mjr_1: for example, you can trade through a broker like coinbr...1 coin deposit is all that is required
mircea_popescu: gecko_x8 no, i'm not saying that at all.
mjr_1: i think he is saying they should take the time to learn
gecko_x8: all while 'rich' ppl should pay you 30 btc just to trade on your exchange
mjr_1: i don't think that is what he is saying at all
gecko_x8: mircea_popescu you are saying that poor ppl should never even try to escape their predicament, but just accept their fate
mjr_1: others look at the "new hot stock" like a lotto ticket
mjr_1: some look at buying a bitcoin like buying a lotto ticket "if it goes to a million dollars..."