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covertress: mircea_popescu i've been asked to extend you a similar offer... to write for steemit xD ☟︎
asciilifeform: lel, even i remember this.
asciilifeform: i dun recall rotor needing such.
mircea_popescu pictures postapocalyptic man digging through rubble. "found anything ?" "i dunno... HOLY SHIT! THIS IS PART OF THE DEEDBOT! WERE RICH!"
asciilifeform: lel, 'I first met [Rodger] when he was aged eight or nine and I could see then that there was something wrong with him. I'm not a psychologist, but looking back now he strikes me as someone who was broken from the moment of conception.'
mircea_popescu: oh oh "foreign actors" i see.
asciilifeform: i've contemplated attempting an openwatcom build of trb.
trinque: mod6: I'm stopping the bitcoind on that box; subsequent ones might be a bit quicker
asciilifeform: (and why i suggested it, years ago, and probably buncha other folks also thought)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the only 'cool folk' among these i know to still remain alive is ol' ted kaczynski.
mircea_popescu: i guess we're letting him walk once we levelled washington dc ?
asciilifeform: 'Heemeyer took about a year and a half to prepare for his rampage. In notes found by investigators after the incident, Heemeyer wrote "It's interesting how I never got caught. This was a part-time project over a 1 1/2 year time period." In the notes, Heemeyer expressed surprise that three men who visited the shed last fall did not discover the bulldozer work, "especially with the 2,000 lb. lift fully exposed." "Somehow their vision w
asciilifeform: do this. It's a cross that I am going to carry and I'm carrying it in God's name," he said. Heemeyer's actions were apparently a political statement. In the audio tapes, he states "Because of your anger, because of your malice, because of your hate, you would not work with me. I am going to sacrifice my life, my miserable future that you gave me, to show you that what you did is wrong".'
asciilifeform: '"God built me for this job," Heemeyer said in the first recording made on April 13, 2004. He even said it was God's plan that he not be married or have family so that he could be in a position to carry out such an attack. "I think God will bless me to get the machine done, to drive it, to do the stuff that I have to do" he said. "God blessed me in advance for the task that I am about to undertake. It is my duty. God has asked me to
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's ancient tardstalk joke
asciilifeform: why - i have nfi. from some ritualistic slug-salt Ur-fear, i suppose.
asciilifeform: i always found one particular detail interesting - usg had the thing cut apart into hundreds of pieces and scattered at scrapyards across the country.
asciilifeform: but i did recount the story in the l0gz at some point.
asciilifeform: i do not, sadly, have mircea_popescu's entomological gifts.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'm pretty impressed with the readership. seriously, 200k words over a week ? that's like five books.
mod6: i like it
mircea_popescu: other than for that curl, i totally beat apple's watch by like 30 years.
mircea_popescu: you know, when i asked my mom if when you invent something, do you also explain how it'd be made ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the fabled watch i invented as a 3yo ? iirc was in the log somwehre.
BingoBoingo: I call it the point.
trinque: Framedragger ? trinque: thanks :) (i've battled with search in postgres and screwing around with indices etc - but will prolly end up asking for advice at some point, cause, you know, i'm young) << yes, do ask.
BingoBoingo: "We somehow weren't reading the same text or somesuch, I don't seem to recall any bullying going on at Taft. Elliot is hereby docked one bullying claim." << Similarly he referred to his ass kicking as bullying when it was merely the result of little bitch drinking above his station.
shinohai: gotta b sexy i guess
Framedragger: (gotta write that bot soon. which set of characters should trigger it btw, mircea_popescu ? shinohai uses / would use !~ as i see)
mircea_popescu: the behaviour is universally called "corruption" in the state-owned press. because they loathe it. but whenever you close an economic circle with the tools of the state against or in spite of the state, you win. which is why i always bribe trafic cops, and don't even live in places where people generally don't.
mircea_popescu: what the state always tries is to leverage the impredictability of you to befear its instruments. hence all the charade of "elections". they're not there for YOU to do anything. they're there because a) you're the sort of idiots who would think they're doing something when in fact you're brownian-motioning around and b) this sickening display strikes fear in the hearts of the pretorian guard. who could otherwise easily walk i
Framedragger: besides, the cops as force decoupled from very shitty state != the cops as they currently exist. i don't trust the fucking state to manage them, and next time i write about how shit it is i don't want to expect a buncha these dudes to break in and "teach me a lesson in being putin spy by criticizing our great country".
Framedragger: the drunk dude would have tried to swing back, and neighbours would have come to help, and punch the thief. i do of course realize (or so i think) the *vast* naivete of this kind of frame of mind, but note that this is possible in some specific communities which take a piss on "global awareness projectz" and just function on a (very) limited geographical scale.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: regarding first strand, no objection, in principle. that is, encouraging submission in itself my breed larger problems and usg-like structures. regarding latter, yeah i have a problem with cops as such. knowing that this will only solidify my "wannabe naive anarchist kid" image, i should point out that if we had a more responsible, (actually) individualist and conscious populace, there would be less need to defer violence
mircea_popescu: i mean good for you for standing up to things and so on ; but in general seems the effort was misplaced. not like they killed the guy. there are two important strands :
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:75/to:75#75 << no, literally, he has absolutely nothing to do with any academic anything whatsoever. back when i was going to [high]school it was considered a waste of your time, fit only for the marginally retarded, to spend your time tickling the tits instead of paying attention in class.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:71/to:71#71 << i dunno that most teen girlies have the sense to ask for a fisting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they all wore british garbs and studied british legal tradition etc. but as i understand, r. pal was secretly sane.
mircea_popescu: as to first, i don't think anyone can seriously argue that present day us has anything to do with the historical item that won ww2. as to second, now is flexible, 5 years,
asciilifeform: or what am i missing.
Framedragger: trinque: thanks :) (i've battled with search in postgres and screwing around with indices etc - but will prolly end up asking for advice at some point, cause, you know, i'm young)
Framedragger: ^ regarding quoting log, so btw would anyone *else* appreciate being able to link to *multiple* lines of irc at once? because i really wanted that. you can click on different timestamps to create ranges. http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:49/to:51#49
asciilifeform: (they made crypto iron for usg, incl. the infamous 'clipper'. but i always picture a malodorous alien mushroom)
Framedragger: god damn it. i wanted to check how limnoria does irc reconnect, and it starts out with a nice SupyReconnectingFactory(ReconnectingClientFactory, drivers.ServersMixin). which doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing, but is in sharp contrast to trinque's short code. lol.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i use wp, and have never used mysql, and don't intend to.
Framedragger: does wp *finally* postgres? last i used it i had to use mysql :/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trilema uses mysql, of course. but i'm thinking migrating wp to postgres may actually be a good idea.
Framedragger: trinque: i'll test it, cool thanks.
trinque: yes, it's what I use for just about everything I build
mircea_popescu: trinque i meant more as a philosophical point than necessarily in this implementation.
Framedragger: trinque: out of curiosity, have you tested how well ircbot reconnects to irc? i see there exists `ircbot-reconnect`. logbot itself only exports that symbol but does not seem to use it itself?
Framedragger: aha, a different initial preference, and i see the danger in the converse - sure
Framedragger: i mean a simpler thing: if people here trust each others' code more, that's a good thing, and *all other things being equal* (crucial assumption), that code should be preferred. no?
Framedragger: just ftr / in truth, when i mentioned "implementing the bot part", i only meant implementing the particular "cite irc lines etc" functionality on top; because the rest is done. in particular, the best solution (before checking out trinque's) seems to be limnoria, which is an updated and maintained extension of supybot (which gribble uses).
trinque: so unless I made a mistake in ircbot (maybe I did) it's *done*
trinque: right. in this case I challenge anyone to find a need for a second patch on those modules themselves, rather than creating a genesis vpatch for their own module which talks to the db in postgres. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and don't even fucking "oh i'll v them later". the whole point of v is to teach you how to code like a sane person.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/i-need-moar-dakka/ < there.
Framedragger: trinque: ah fuck, sorry, i'm used to my state explaining what there is in the world, i guess ://
Framedragger: i mean, irc bot that *quotes* log lines.
trinque: I FUCKING PUBLISHED A LOGGING BOT.
asciilifeform: cmucl is, as i now know, a stinking pile of shit, that pisses away the main upside of using common lisp in the first place: it reintroduces segfault
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: should i then proceed to implement the bot-part of the logs, too? if phf's bot part can be reused, then that's great, too. i guess i can investigate
mircea_popescu: i'm not doing it THIS INSTANT, you got a week or w/e
mircea_popescu: yes that's what i mean. and yes.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: wait, you mean rewriting references to log lines in your (e.g.) blog? understand, i didn't retrospectively import *past* logs into the viewer yet. (but i will, now.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger ok, don't bother, i'll just re-redo the fucking references. and you'll have to re-redo them in the log itself also. but that'll be it.
Framedragger: you mean permalinks to any given irc line? no. i don't know how phf's numbers work but can probably dig it out
Framedragger: okok, enough with the not-committing shit. i agree, and apologize for getting on people's nerves, possibly. i will extend the thing's features. complaints and requests welcome
trinque: at any rate, I'm going to dedicate my time to peeling the wot mechanics into their own lisp system, such that I can publish that next, rather than log viewer. that is, provided Framedragger delivers.
mircea_popescu: if i was going to play with little plastic figurines i'd buy those!
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> god damned it, now i'm gonna have to fish out old logs for a yet another time ? grrr. << the cure is that infrastructural items oughta be published.
mircea_popescu: heh. yeah, see ? exactly what i said above : this is why management pisses on heads etc. because the only solution to unreliable knaves is centralism.
Framedragger: but if people decide to actually use it then i should implement "previous day browser / buttons" asap because the current (choose from list of days) thing is really too simplistic.
trinque: I propose we get a domain going elsewhere which we cname to whichever current log viewer.
mircea_popescu: god damned it, now i'm gonna have to fish out old logs for a yet another time ? grrr.
mircea_popescu: i assumed so, but i've had it with this "oh, you can't process the logs when you have time to process the logs because logviewer software is made by argentina."
Framedragger: look, it sounds like an excuse, but i assumed that phf's btcbase will remain the canonical viewer. making extended effort at redundancy *is* sometimes inefficient, even if educational.
mircea_popescu: alright, then i'ma inhibit trinque for the i dunno, fifth time and give your thing a try.
Framedragger: sure i do.
Framedragger: god damn it. i shouldn't have said "hack". should have said "elegant in its simplicity". 'cause it's simple. and i do fix bug reports. o well
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i won't try yours, because i just said i'm not interested in this "it works, no promises though" approach to anything. it's not a way to live. i'm not committing downstream to your napkin doodle.
mircea_popescu: please do. i'd like to read Framedragger novella.
mircea_popescu: "oh i can't commit because what if i did!"
trinque: I did not take this on because phf volunteered his thing.
Framedragger: hey i wrote this for myself for when phf is out in his desert ;)
mircea_popescu: no dude no more of these quick hacks sorta-kinda-i'm not really involved bs.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i have the web side of things, more or less, though it *was* a quick hack. http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today ; you can select ranges, too, like http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:15/to:26#15
trinque: I'd prefer just feeding phf logs in some manner
mircea_popescu: i'm gonna have to fucking change all my references on trilema AGAIN ? what the fuck already.
trinque: before we go reimplementing bots the rest of our lives, remember that I published one that logs
shinohai: no i decided to vacation too. mine bitched too much
mircea_popescu: so how am i going to read it and reference things now.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how one can seriously bayesianize after http://trilema.com/2016/multivariate-calculus-for-experts/ for instance.
mircea_popescu: and i can try to breach it any way i want. trilema is full of it. there's a "oh, you'e in online marketing ? here's how i got millions of ''clicks'' worth whatever you pay for them, free". mayn't notice. "can't say nigger ? here." mayn't!!11 "oh you think so and so about education/rape/whatever ?" MAYNT!!111
Framedragger: (in unrelated lol, a remittance solution / bank transfer service just emailed me with the words "Yeah! We’ve just sent your money!" in the subject line. i dunno, something about the tone resembling "fuck yah bro i just finished the vodka!!" doesn't inspire confidence)
Framedragger: false belief in existence of optionality of how to approach things "on my own terms", i guess you could say?
Framedragger: s/insist/to insist/ && s/unconciousness/unconsciousness/ i hate typos
Framedragger: this particular type of lack of self awareness in a broader context of "where am i" really ties well with the elliott dude, i dunno, some kind of deeper similarity imo
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i think i'm finally... about to... get the point ://