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mircea_popescu: rather than represent them as any of the numerous things they're not.
mircea_popescu: the one noteworthy thing is that the press correctly identified the group as representatives of bitcoin foundation, which they are, and bitcoin advocates, which they also are
kakobrekla: also lol “Right now, it’s $3 to get money out of an ATM,”
kakobrekla: who gives a fuck about that?
kakobrekla: Startups and small businesses hoping to conduct transactions using the currency would be driven out of the United States in the face of heavy regulation, said Marco Santori,
ozbot: Inside the Bitcoin advocates’ closed-door meeting with federal regulators
mircea_popescu: their one hope is your one hope, which is to say educating themselves. the exact thing you don't want to do, because everything's the same and everyone's equal or w/e.
mircea_popescu: they aren't a part of the discussion of bitcoin other than as historical accident, nor of bitcoin securities at all.
mircea_popescu: stargazing noobs hoping their irrelevancy may somehow be soothed and their poverty magically alleviated moved from glbse to btct
mircea_popescu: the two populations have nothing in common. people with a clue are already on mpex, and have been, long before btct was even invented.
mircea_popescu: the ceo of airbus does point out when some scam killing people pops up pretending to be airbuz
ThickAsThieves: and then other legit issuers doing the same
ThickAsThieves: maybe this results in me moving my securities to another exchange
ThickAsThieves: maybe this is that process?
gecko_x2: i don't see the issue
gecko_x2: so what if they are a scam, then that means in the end everyone will flow back to mpex
gecko_x2: i just don't understand the shit slinging
mircea_popescu: im sorry if reality contradicts your pedestrian equalitarianism. grow up and all that.
gecko_x2: and maybe one or two others..
mircea_popescu: gecko_x2 you're not qualified to judge evidence.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 my standpoint is that as long as you're allowed to mortgage park avenue and pay your monopoly debts in parker dollars bitbet is no different, and as long as you aren't allowed the foregoing the entire discussion is moot anyway and croix de lorraine.
ThickAsThieves: <gecko_x2> just that one should have some evidence before accusing people of fraud <<< what evidence is missing?
dexX7: what's your standpoint on this topic (not btct in general)?
gecko_x2: maybe this is all a scam
gecko_x2: and you're using this nick to create controversy
mircea_popescu: dexX7 all sorts of things are arguable, in principle.
mircea_popescu: that'd be the difference.
dexX7: i like that this topic receives attention though i might not like the outcome. let's say i create some bitbets about "stock x goes up/down", this might be gambling or something else, but wouldn't turn bitbet into a derivate broker, would it? a simulated stock trading plattform with fictitious/non-fictitious securities is not so far away from this imho, but one could also come up with
gecko_x2: well if i were you i'd concentrate on making my own exchange better instead of spending all my time pouring shit over others
mircea_popescu: makes their job that much easier.
mircea_popescu: you know, it's much like politicians : the corrupt ones love it when the public thinks all politicians are corrupt.
gecko_x2: just that one should have some evidence before accusing people of fraud
VanCleef: before that mayyyyyyne
VanCleef: < ThickAsThieves> at least since the labcoin/btcgarden releases
ThickAsThieves: at least since the labcoin/btcgarden releases
kleeck: I think he has been...
pankkake: oh he did. "This change did not come from them"
pankkake: you notice he does not answer about the lawyer
mircea_popescu: at least that's my goal on that front.
mircea_popescu: you take in 10 btc and spend 11 btc.
mircea_popescu: not really. it gets expensive to pay your shills and the scammer running the btct thing and then all the fgake volume...
pankkake: lol the guy must have a lot of btc and yet he votes nothing
mircea_popescu: (no btc tho)
ozbot: BitBet - Labcoins own 130nm design sample chips will be received by testers by 12TH SEPT 2013
ThickAsThieves: much, but we have to make sure people are not being tricked or misled into believing anything on the site is a real security."
ThickAsThieves: "Killed two birds with one stone. Wink The disclosure must now be agreed to before seeing the market or the individual assets. It's virtually the same disclosure as that in the registration agreement, but this way there's a periodic reminder that participants should only be using the site for education/entertainment/fun. I know a lot of people out there are not going to like this
mircea_popescu: well then excuse me while i ignore some incompetent scammer trying to steal shit from me in order to make fiddy bux.
ThickAsThieves: but i'm about to tear into him a lil more
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves did he had the decency to quote my post ?
kleeck: He has reiterated this?
ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu, have you seen burnside's latest assertions that BTCT is all a game?
kleeck: Oh think their is a lot of truth to that.
mircea_popescu: best i can guess pretty much all kids have some sort of sexual contact with other kids. i had, as a kid, all the kids i knew did, as kids, it's normalcy as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure there's a deep end of it. but i have the luxury of considering the other end.
kleeck: So, you don't respect the model woman in your life, who probably neglected you, and your main exposure to woman are ones that make money pretending to love being gangbanged.
kleeck: Of course. I think the trick is to not hurt anyone while you error your way to adulthood.
mircea_popescu: right. still, functionally speaking the brain matures from infancy to adulthood. this always involves some trial and error, and it'd stand to reason sex is no different.
kleeck: I should say most were convicted. Some were wards of the state and were sent by their counties.
mircea_popescu: or so you think.
kleeck: We didn't have many kids that had consensual sex with other kids...
kleeck: Instead of calling them that, though, the powers that be determined that they just have not sexually developed properly.
mjr_: wait are we talking about the girl accused of playing "doctor"
kleeck: It's the PC term for "kids who touch other kids"
mircea_popescu: what's maladaptive even mean in that context
deadweasel: kleeck, my youth is leaving me, but my sexual maladaptive traits only seem to strengthen... wtf?
kleeck: Indeed. I used to run a program for what we called, "Sexually Maladaptive Youth".
mircea_popescu: we live in interesting times, it's easy enough to do.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 1.00978800 BTC to 2`019`576 shares, 50 satoshi per share
ozbot: Sex in the news pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kleeck: "So, as managing editor of CNN.com, I want our readers to know this: All you are to us, and all you will ever be to us, are eyeballs. The more eyeballs on our content, the more cash we can ask for. Period. And if we’re able to get more eyeballs, that means I’ve done my job, which gets me congratulations from my bosses, which encourages me to put up even more stupid bullshit on the homepage."
VanCleef: god bless the dumb money
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what time is it over there? 7pm?
thestringpuller: meh; 90 days it's meant to be held long term
thestringpuller: Urushiol: so it trades higher, if you look at the last trades tho, it's stable so it's liquid if you still buy, so it is still a "buyers market"
thestringpuller: Urushiol: because it's worth more than it's face value
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.00000, Best ask: 129.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 47883.14816070, 24 hour low: 119.91611, 24 hour high: 133.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.26804
Diablo-D3: local bank has a $1000 on the wall in the vault btw
Diablo-D3: and when they quit using $1000+ bills, $1000 was a lot of fucking money
Diablo-D3: its funny hearing anti-Fed or anti-war on drugs people bring them up and be like THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING OUR SHIT AWAY
Diablo-D3: $1000 and up were only ever really meant for bank to bank transfers
Diablo-D3: although due to $1000 and up being a rarity, they're worth far more than that to a private collector
Diablo-D3: and only the treasury will convert it into modern bills
Diablo-D3: a business doesnt have to accept it as legal tender
Diablo-D3: in the US they're "illegal" anyhow
Diablo-D3: [04:21:17] <jurov> anyway, bills worth $10k are impractical...imagine trying to pay with it
ozbot: Which Single Piece of Currency is Worth the Most? | LiveScience
jurov: anyway, bills worth $10k are impractical...imagine trying to pay with it
Duffer1: dunno who the guy is but if anyone ever made a B bill, that design would be a good place to start
dexX7: yeah, trolling :)
jurov: some photoshop dude on trolltalk
dexX7: woah germany not even accepts bitcoin as legal tender, this is acutally a preview of the new bills: http://i.imgur.com/h1OCkFD.jpg
Duffer1: ya i saw that, i would have preferred a motion to open a legal fund but w/e i'm not a stockholder anyways
dexX7: i'm not implying "this is legit" or anything, but afaik he withheld 58 bitcoin of divs last month or the month before for upcoming layer expenses
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.82000, Best ask: 128.82501, Bid-ask spread: 0.00501, Last trade: 128.82501, 24 hour volume: 46547.38308323, 24 hour low: 119.91611, 24 hour high: 133.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.08319
Duffer1: 5 monopoly dollars that just happen to be worth 130usd each >.<
Duffer1: hehe what's it cost to list? like 5 B?
ThickAsThieves: maybe he can charge my account with some bitcoin credits then
dexX7: so if you say "you promise "profit"", this would apply, wouldn't it?
dexX7: any claim of monetary value therein, relates solely and specifically to the valuation of assets within our virtual economic ecosystem.
dexX7: While we fully expect listed virtual companies to follow through with their virtual business plans, please KEEP IN MIND AT ALL TIMES -- shares purchased on this stock exchange simulation do not entitle you to legal real-world rights to a listed virtual company as you would expect from a real company. -- The terms "profit" and "earnings" as used within the context of the website, and