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Rulother: No need to pay for security, the NSA has you covered
matuszed: Soak in that freedom
VanCleef: its really where you want to be in 2020
VanCleef: i think we all need to base our business's in america
AndrewJackson: rolls off your tongue like murderer
VanCleef: i'm thinking about doing an ipo about doing a bitcoin business in america. its a really good safe jurisdiction that encourages innovation and new ideas.
ozbot: Scientists Say They've Confirmed A New Element : The Two-Way : NPR
ThickAsThieves: saddam hussein tanks
kleeck: But their relationship with North Korea is simply unacceptable.
kleeck: THis is true.
ThickAsThieves: I will give props to labcoin for a not horrible logo
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin needs to up its game
ozbot: The first Ouya-backed games on Kickstarter might be scams | The Verge
ThickAsThieves: “The Chinese government provides preferential policies to attract FDI [foreign direct investment] in certain high tech areas that benefit the Chinese economy,” said the Massive Luck exec. “They require traditional CPU-based traditional computing power to address the acute shortage of it. Shanghai supercomputer center will be responsible for the overall facility design and staff
ThickAsThieves: ok so my rally theory didnt pan out
dexX7_: frankenstein = "one who is weird" seems appropriate, thanks
ThickAsThieves: “We had a board meeting which put together a small research group, tasked with making an initial assessment of business opportunities in the fledgling digital currency area. The team presented its report in early January, and the report identified the digital currencies as a potential area of disruptive technological breakthroughs, and a very promising investment opportunity.”
ThickAsThieves: "Massive Luck Investments, which has offices in places including Manila and the UK, is a relatively new entrant to the bitcoin space. "
mircea_popescu: admittedly the last part could in some contexts be frankenstein but apparently it's not the case or w/e. chinese shit.
mircea_popescu: Jiē diànhuà de rén shìgè kēxué guàirén < they who answered the phone were weird.
dexX7_: hehe well, my irc client doesn't show the characters, but fine. frankenstein is what google tells me, too. but that sounds wrong.
mircea_popescu: Rulother we used to have it two years ago. then google went apeshiot and banned api access.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves bitfury ? didn't they say it's 4ph or some scandalous shit like that ?
Rulother: We need a translation bot in here
ThickAsThieves: not sure how much goes to farm/sales/franchise
mircea_popescu: avalon isn't doing too well apparently, which leaves pretty much vbitfury with actual chips
ThickAsThieves: i think they said this batch is about 200th
dexX7_: someone here who can translate: 接电话的人是个科学怪人 ?
ThickAsThieves: for the moment
kleeck: Yes. So is AM currently the $/GH winner?
mircea_popescu: kleeck we're discussing things you can buy tho, not things people want to sell you.
kleeck: Can you imagine how much bitjizz would be launched over that?
ThickAsThieves: or maybe they are actually smart
kleeck: This is true.
ThickAsThieves: but CoinTerra isnt relevant til xmas
kleeck: Looks like CoinTerra has the most competitive pricing yet: http://www.coindesk.com/cointerra-cuts-price-of-terraminer-iv-bitcoin-mining-rig/
dexX7_: Ukyo: http://www.btcpie.com/blog_2013/08/bitfunder%ef%bc%88weexchange-%e6%b3%a8%e5%86%8c%e5%8f%8a%e5%85%85%e5%80%bc%e6%8c%87%e5%8d%97 some chinese guys created a tutorial on how to register @ bf, maybe this is useful for you
mircea_popescu: if it goes to two, it's a further -40%
mircea_popescu: the move from ~4 to 3.5 was a good 15% sliced offa there.
mircea_popescu: so .5 btc per share at their own blade prices
mircea_popescu: how much do they have online, like 10th ?
ThickAsThieves: until now there was no call for a pricewar
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the am victorious muppets realise that undercutting bfl means am just undercut its own stock.
Rulother: I've already contacted the KS AG
mircea_popescu: so basicalyl we'll be at ~.2btc / gh within about two weeks ?
Rulother: I have a couple of singles to get money for, I'm not letting that go so easily. Nor do I let money just go to waste.
matuszed: race to the bottom
Rulother: There is a big movement to get a class action lawsuit going
Graet: i know ppl that are failing at that...
ystarnaud: you can get a refund through a painful process if you used paypal i think...
Graet: bfl stopped doing refunds when they started shipping
ThickAsThieves: "Price of BFL Single: $2499 for 50Ghs. Price for 5x AM blades: 3.5btc x 5 x 130 = $2275 for 50Ghs. Every single BFL device that has been pre-ordered just got undercut. I would expect nearly every rational actor with a BFL preorder to cancel immediately. Friedcat just bankrupted them."
ThickAsThieves: (testing a theory)
mircea_popescu: of course, unlike south africa the apartheid is voluntary, and reflects merit rather than birth
mircea_popescu: here's an open secret : bitcoin is much like south africa back when it worked, an apartheid system. forumers, redditors and co are 2nd class citizens. we don't give a shit about them.
ThickAsThieves: points can be made about me, therefore what right do i have to make points
ThickAsThieves: pale pheonix basically turning the thing into some kinda fight
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is appointed in a chat log in the first place. am i missing something ?
ystarnaud: mircea_popescu: I meant according to forums haha
ThickAsThieves: it was no different then the thread
ThickAsThieves: i am puzzled why burnside is disappointed by the chat log
Rulother: I'm sure as hell am not going to convert my money just to transfer over to ltc exchange for the shares
ThickAsThieves: Newcomer hears about bitcoin, begins to read up, chooses an exchange, deposits $ into account, then sees litecoins for sales and goes uhhh wtf
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves my guess is it muddies the waters FOR LTC. much bnetter for it to have its own
Rulother: The only thing I see useful if btct supported ltc, is buying up more ltc global shares
ystarnaud: for trading smaller amounts maybe
mircea_popescu: ystarnaud certainly a good back-up to have just in case.
ystarnaud: i see it as a good alternative to BTC
ThickAsThieves: it muddies the water
ThickAsThieves: i kinda feel the exchanges should not support ltc
ystarnaud: ThickAsThieves: yeah thats true... more and more merchants seem to also accept it along with BTC tho which is nice
ystarnaud: btc-e numbers that is
ystarnaud: like a few weeks ago... (cant remember exact numbers but around those...) LTC was 2.4USD... BTC 96 USD... you had a ratio of 0.025LTC/BTC... now its like 2.35LTC/USD and BTC is 115BTC/USD for a ratio of 0.0204LTC/BTC
ThickAsThieves: but at the expense of bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: if Gox carries it, Coinbase carries it, and then the btc stock exchanges weave it in
ThickAsThieves: basically the last hope is that the exchanges will take it seriously
ThickAsThieves: again, the problem with ltc...
ystarnaud: if that makes sense
ystarnaud: the LTC/USD fluctuates of course... but generally stays the same ratio... the LTC/BTC ratio varies so that LTC/USD stays the same vs BTC/USD
ThickAsThieves: does the LTC/USD price not follow?
ystarnaud: well it's been relative to bitcoin to USD value
ThickAsThieves: chexck the chart against bitcoin
ystarnaud: I don't think its that bad... its been around 2.3-2.5 USD per LTC for the past few months
ThickAsThieves: and then it behaves wtf otherwise
ThickAsThieves: but it seems to only go down when bitcoin goes up
ThickAsThieves: it only gets the bad side
ystarnaud: but its been 800-970 for the past 2 months or so not bad
ThickAsThieves: yet is not reliable enough to be a solid hedge
matuszed: its the old gpu miners last resort
ystarnaud: nevermind 100... used to be 15 when i started lol
ThickAsThieves: this is the sad reality of LTC
ystarnaud: the price drop of LTC is only cause BTC went up... the value is the same as it was approximatly
mircea_popescu: the avenue through which this will be realised will vbe exactly mining diff/price relationship
ThickAsThieves: ltc nethash seems to be generally stable
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is one of those markets, like television, where being #1 pays. being #2 maybe can be made stable if you cut corners. the rest however is a money black hole.
ystarnaud: and people are too focused on buying up ASICs right now
matuszed: with little to no follow through in price
mircea_popescu: what's the scrypt barrier to entry ?
mircea_popescu: lol doesn't begin to cover it >D
mircea_popescu: the total value of all mining scams = 1.2mn ?