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gecko_x2: so a backup of a
TB hdd would be about 500 GB
TomServo: +1 on looking
to re-read
the Eulora update :P
gecko_x2: with btrfs making a backup is simply
taking a snapshot of
the changed data since last backup
gecko_x2: ur arguing about shit
that doesn't matter in a CoW world
pankkake: but
that's why you have
to understand how raid works very well
pankkake: mircea_popescu:
that's not
the question. if other drives die while rebuilding, you're fucked
thestringpuller: i would assume if your production server burst into flames you got bigger problems
than raod
mircea_popescu: pankkake on
the mpex system i have a 1+0 hotswappable work of wonder.
thestringpuller: did
the entire raid array die or just a few drives in
the array?
pankkake: my raid6 saved me more
than once
gecko_x2: so u can kiss
those raid arrays goodbye for good
mircea_popescu: gecko_gs2 what about like when it dies in flames and you have
to keep a production server offline for 20 hours while you pi8ck up
the pieces!
ThickAsThieves: always more problems
than
they are worth in my experience
gecko_x2: java is
the optimal language for any raid solution
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller anyway, im
trying
to piece it
together.
mircea_popescu: while it's
true
that most people involved are 5, what bothers me
the most is
that most are 5 while simultaneously working on
the mentality of your average street whore.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the reason an issuer would
to
the right
thing is because he's not a fucking leech,
trying
to buy a car off paying lip service
to
the internet
thing.
San1ty_: If
they can get away with shares
San1ty_: A lot of people here are 5
though...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "dont
tell me what a fucking bond is, i'm not 5"
San1ty_: So IMHO, a bond as an issuer is more risk
then just selling BS Shares.
San1ty_: ThickAsThieves, mircea_popescu: Shares is a commitment
to profit, but bonds are basically a loan. Shares are a variable cost for you for example dividends. But a bond is a steady cost.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves everyone
that can be fucking made sense out of you know ?
ozbot: Welcome
to Google Docs
mircea_popescu: what's
the relation between 6 and 2.48 / 4 and 4.19 / 4 and 3.81 ?!
mircea_popescu: just, by now
there's so many of
these indistinguishable
things
that im always loath i confuse joe for schmoe.
San1ty_: ThickAsThieves: Correct, I'm
trying
to have an open discussion here (hope I haven't offended anyone? :S). But
the premise of shares and bonds are different.
mircea_popescu: so if it's a fund why hate on it, is
the portofolio
that bad ?
ThickAsThieves: San1ty, you realize selling shares is also a commitment
to profit, no?
kleeck_: LOL - Bithub
to Jmutch (SANDSTORM): "yeh yeh, can you just
tell me how shit my stock is doing please?"
mircea_popescu: San1ty i just used your conveniently open ended statement
to make a point.
pankkake: well, I learned a lot about how
trading works. and futures, stuff
San1ty_: mircea_popescu: I'm
talking about risk for
the issuer obviously. If you manage
to sell all your bonds, you promise (unless you are a scam)
to pay a steady low fee
to pay off your loan. When selling shares you just sell
that... shares. No risk for
the issuer whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: well
that's
the bane of
the amateur invesotr anyway. but if you are using
that
time
to eduicate youirself its not really a waste.
pankkake: I now realize
that watching stock prices for what I have is not really "worth it"
mircea_popescu: pankkake as
they can't go up enough
to make
ten dollar
tom "oprah rich",
they're not "Worth it".
mircea_popescu: gecko_gs2 San1ty and co : have i put enough digits in
there
to make you rich or need more ?
mircea_popescu: bonds introduce
the risk
that
they can't conceivably go up 548906809560954860958x
pankkake: but if
the company defaults, wouldn't shares go
to zero in
the same situation anyway?
San1ty_: ThickAsThieves: It's pretty simple actually, bonds introduce some risk
that shares don't have.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well mayben
they know something you don't.
mircea_popescu: and for
the record, lurking here is a lot more adequate
than
talking for
the needs of most people.
ThickAsThieves: the coincidence being I am in
the very process of
trying
to convince a new mining co
that
there are other ways
to raise money
pankkake: would
there be a way
to do both? obviously founders would not want
to
take
that much risk
pankkake: oh, never
thought of it
that way
ThickAsThieves: profits
they'd make a lot more doing it
that way.
There's a reason people who can actually make a decent profit offer bonds/loans rather
than equity. And
there's a reason
those who can't make a decent profit always sell shares. At present
there's not enough of
the former and
too many of
the latter."
ThickAsThieves: "It's unfortunate
that
there are few bonds around (the ones out
there are all sold out). It pretty much shows how full of shit all
these new mining/ASIC companies are - although
they'll happily predict huge profits for investors
they won't put
their money where
their mouth is and raise
their capital via loan/bond paying a fixed-rate. Despite
the fact
that if
they're right about
the
pankkake: I can say bitcoin made me 4
times richer, but I still am poor
San1ty_: Markets pretty boring
today
pankkake: turns out XBOND is more lucrative for me
than stocks
gecko_x2: everything is fine, nothing
to see :)
Namworld: Not BFL. But
technically, it's sound in
the sense it keeps making sales despite awful customer services =P
San1ty_: so it's an exchange where
the only stock
traded is
the exchange
San1ty_: Namworld: Must be great
to get into private opportunities.
San1ty_: Namworld: Hah, Yeah
that's easy, but how do you get into private and sound projects? :D.
Namworld: I'll keep investing and dedicating
time in private and sound projects.
San1ty_: otherwise I'm not sure if I'll have
the courage
to hold
till mining.
San1ty_: if Labcoin drops
to 2.8
this weekend
Rulother: I believe it has also caused my drinking and smoking
to up by like 3x
San1ty_: a good daytrader
that is :D.
San1ty_: Well a good reason is
the lack of patient "investors", most people in it are only in it for
the huge profit spikes.
Rulother: But I do plan on being up for 24-48hrs during
the period
that it starts hashing