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mp_en_viaje: alright, so all the better then, unfettered soar and there you go.
asciilifeform: ts it renamed ) , all other asciilifeform agenda items will continue even if errybody joins in the firing squad.
asciilifeform: moar alive nao than ever. as for mp_en_viaje , plox to post the signed addr. piz liquidators, plox to take proceedings to #p. folx who intend to continue to crib off asciilifeform's work, which continues, or want functioning hosting : to #a. (which i'ma take is no longer official mp castle, i'ma take off the sign shortly.) next gen of FG will still be produced, on asciilifeform's dime ( and i'ma respect mp_en_viaje's wishes if he wan
BingoBoingo will get an inventory published today.
asciilifeform: 'real life to begin' ?
mp_en_viaje: now lay of le dramatique, and go back to waiting for your real life to begin, i've no further interest.
mp_en_viaje: at least it'll keep good time with itself.
mp_en_viaje: yeah, that'll be a sight to behold, the only gossipd node.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 15:42:42 mp_en_viaje: i barfed at the line quoted ; the loper-os page is still loaded in the browser but i guess ima get to it in a year or w/e. like with newspapers, you know, antiquarian interest.
asciilifeform: as for this -- can read nao, or never, or year later, will still be there, when asciilifeform operating the only 'gossip' hosting backbone-sitting isp, and mp_en_viaje excommunicated 5 moar people for failing to lay atlantic fibers for him, and still has none.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also plox to generate an addr where you want it, and sign. ( i dunno if will be able to operate deedbot after we're through and asciilifeform is unplugged in #t. )
asciilifeform: that being said, let's make it faster , iirc mp_en_viaje valued the snsa gear at piz at 0.9. invoice asciilifeform for 0.9, i'm already warming up cold wallet to pay mp_en_viaje the earlier 0.3 invoice .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: explain what diff it oughta make to asciilifeform whether gets fraudulent '-10 : ran off with the gear' or '-10 : ferrocranium refused to go on isp suicide mission' from mp_en_viaje ?
mp_en_viaje: to put it plainly, apparently your ferrocranium's particularly truculent this evening : if you do not fucking produce it, i will simply say you ran off with the gear. are we clear or wtf ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the inventory's in piz.
mp_en_viaje: now make that inventory and be done with it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re snsa, it was always yours to do with as you wanted, was structured in such a way (w/ the e.g. 'mpex fee' exponential growth) that asciilifeform was guaranteed never to see a bitcent from it. ( and knew this; worked w/ mp_en_viaje strictly outta principle. )
mp_en_viaje: she conceivably assigns demosthenes of rhodes to some children, doesn't now mean ima partnership in geometry with early greeks
asciilifeform remembers that mp_en_viaje dun read #o
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: might want to let diana_coman know, to 'stop follow the amateur exertions', she's been assigning e.g. 'v.py' as homework.
mp_en_viaje: nor is there much cause to keep up the s.nsa pretense, it is, by your own words now completing your own actions, a hollow shell.
mp_en_viaje: i'll read it eventually ; but there's no interest now, as there was no interest then, in following your amateur exertions, so assumed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The lesson of this month is that the non-performance of the derps in the basement didn't have to be a fatal blow to Pizarro. Our failures to sell and find some leverage in the selling by expanding the l2, created the conditions that turned into into a coup de grace.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can persuade to read ? can then barf correctly. ( the #s dun lie, in fact show what intake can expect per subscriber, etc. ) even if you build own isp, the ~same mechanics will apply.
mp_en_viaje: i barfed at the line quoted ; the loper-os page is still loaded in the browser but i guess ima get to it in a year or w/e. like with newspapers, you know, antiquarian interest.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 10:56:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947781 << atm writing lengthy piece re subj (expecting to post fri/sat) and would rather not clutter the log w/ figures until then
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 16:57:34 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947800 << /me shall read this sunday, then.
mp_en_viaje: "phase 5", help me rwanda. if you buy 5 it'll be 5 and if not it'll be 625 or 32598049853049 phases. just as long as it dun involve any eh what the hell's the point, it;s been talked to death already.
mp_en_viaje: which, after all, is the point.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: With the level of repeating involved I had suspicions.
mp_en_viaje: tyvm, five years of it are good enough. asciilifeform can do whatever the fuck he feels like while waiting for his real life to really begin, dun need me or anyone else for any of that.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 12:30:42 BingoBoingo: Now "I refuse to take outside capital until the rack's current cost basis is covered and a conversion engine is running" is a different position.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948460 << i'm not interested in "patching over", it'll just be another version of ye perennial "what's the absolute minimum i can do so as to just barely squeak by the standard without actually doing it".
mp_en_viaje: half dozen fucking statements of ~same~ thing within the past ~two weeks.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-27 19:16:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 11:35:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-27#1948412 << alright, well, i guess we're just talking talks here, coulda said you were gonna be stupid from the get go saved everyone the hassle.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 13:39:53 mp_en_viaje: ~this~ is the discriminant ; it's not a matter of how great you can do at the hobby of this, when "real life" permits. it's not how impressive, or above-others, or anything else your amateur effort might come to be.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 10:04:55 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948442 << i dunget: per mp's lights it was shoddy isp. but he wanted to buy it ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948448 << we're back at this http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946353 http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947835 etc
BingoBoingo: Going from one occupied rack operating in the black to the next phase, 5 in you chart is going to be an expensive jump but if there is an outreach engine running investors or creditors may be interested in something like hiring lobbes to make camp in Iberia and service the racks you rent at all of the cable landing points.
BingoBoingo: Now "I refuse to take outside capital until the rack's current cost basis is covered and a conversion engine is running" is a different position.
BingoBoingo: No outside capital until the hereto unmapped phase 5 is one thing. No outside capital ever... that position will trap your operation at hobby shop scale.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Even the most independent "muh seeds, muh land, muh guns" farmers know they can't completely cut themselves off from outside capital. They might not like taking debt, but they gotta be open to the possibility. If the neighbor's farm fall due to low commodity prices, as a farmer you have to at least try to buy his fields for the scale as your position isn't much better without growing.
asciilifeform: 'make me a can opener.' 'here's a can opener, mp' 'fuck you tard, where's the steel mill and coal, iron mines, to go with that!?'
asciilifeform: not many dc can even ~house~ 1000+. was mp also proposing to build a dc ?! ( if so, why specced 'rack' ? )
asciilifeform: would req literally 1000+ subscribers. ( are there even 1000 total ~people~ in l2 ? )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:25:05 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there's 2 separate qs.: a) whether it is possible to run a comfortably +ev miniature isp for use of l1/l2. b) is how to run large isp, hosting 1000 heathens, to make 100k's. presently it would be a lie if asciilifeform said that knows how to (b) , and suicidal if tried to (a) + (b) simultaneously right off .
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform does not know how to build (and in usa no less!) an isp that reliably brings in, ~from l1/l2~, and on top of other expenses, the 1-1.5btc/mo that would be req'd to feed asciilifeform. and refuse to scam anyone into thinking that i know how. if ~this~ is hard requirement, then yes, asciilifeform oughta be drummed out.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw, afaik all of the iron that's actually on the books, with the exception of 4 very worn 256G ssd (~50 $ if were new) that i had BingoBoingo mail , is at piz. so you can liquidate even nao if you like.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why not detail what you had in mind, before we do the mutual -10 / declaring each other traitors thing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-27 19:16:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 11:35:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-27#1948412 << alright, well, i guess we're just talking talks here, coulda said you were gonna be stupid from the get go saved everyone the hassle.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948442 << i dunget: per mp's lights it was shoddy isp. but he wanted to buy it ?
asciilifeform: hm thought already 'washed out' in june ?
mp_en_viaje: normally i'd recommend either a lord take you in or, in the case of more retarded, that they themselves find a lord to take them in. in your case though, i don't tjhink there's any point in wasting anyone's time, you're just getting washed out and that'sthat.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 18:03:01 mp_en_viaje: anyway, unrelatedly : for the folk awaiting trilema publication of divers reports, as were implicitly due for q3 sometime early october : i had every intention of doing them, if not by the 5th day as trad. absolute value at least sorta by 15th (as scaled value, 3x the months, 3x5 days) or something. but then, whole pizaro debacle, adding to the fact that i'm traveling and that's never so fixed a schedule (for inst
mp_en_viaje: i expect the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945345 batch with include the s.nsa closing statement ; asciilifeform an inventory of whatever hardware / items said corp still has in your hands will therefore be helpful to have on hand then for liquidation.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-27 19:16:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-27#1948412 << alright, well, i guess we're just talking talks here, coulda said you were gonna be stupid from the get go saved everyone the hassle.
mp_en_viaje: now, i can't take out the old style js-select, because i have a bunch of these that haven't been altered out yet ; but why the hell do they not use the new style, and why the hell do they create monsters when told to ?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, why is it just so hard for theses folks ? check this shit out : http://younghands.club/2019/10/28/jfw-plan-week-of-oct-28/?b=Inves&e=#comment-59
mp_en_viaje: and in other news /me shall be going to budapest soon, plan to catch up with logs &all in the car.
mp_en_viaje: afaik that was always the case, argentines couldn't buy dollars ; but then again it was there mostly for their own psyche wound protection -- they COULDNT buy more anyway. they just love to pretend.
BingoBoingo: Across the river http://archive.is/qjcnO 61/65 official versus 72.5/75.5 blue
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/Wgnln << Raw incoming results 31.2 White Nationalists 36.2 Fat Forehead with 38.4 percent of the ballots counted. The projections the lcoal media is running because they won't show anything other than "projections" are 29 White Nationalist 38 Fat Forehead.
BingoBoingo: So far quiet. some youth without obvious affiliation gathered on the Rambla as they tend to do, tomando mate. Some fireworks (not a metaphor) on the beach. A *very* few cars with flags of varying sizes making rounds.
BingoBoingo: brb, going to it the streets in search of commie tears
BingoBoingo: The Colorados and other minor parties are pledging allegiance to the White Nationalist party in their concesion speeches. Fat Forehead sitting under 40%
BingoBoingo: At this point nothing is final, but I am looking to be more right than the BBC.
BingoBoingo: As the results are awaited: https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Algunas-aclaraciones-sobre-el-video-viral-de-un-votante-de-Cabildo-Abierto-en-Lavalleja-uc733924
BingoBoingo: I did see the economist identifying candidate riding around the neighborhood in a compact car followed by a motorcycle news team
BingoBoingo: Polls are closed. In the past 40 minutes all the flags attached to cars disappeared. Folks walking around with flags are similarly gone
asciilifeform will bbl, deadly tired.
asciilifeform: ftr i do not in fact disagree with mp's 'expand the republic, you maggot' . but i also have a principled objection to selling things that dun physically exist, and rely on unknowns in order to come into existence. ( recall, i refused to offer FG for pre-order until it was in fact rolling off conveyor at factory.) hence i built multiphase rocket, that does not ~hard-depend~ on a rate of expansion in order to stay alive.
asciilifeform: a 3) 'expand the republic' presently takes more brain than i have, to offer concrete idea. but will write on the subj, as soon as i have half a clue (and ftr, imho sending spam is ~not~ a practical plan for expanding republic.)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my focus to date has been 1) obtain and assemble the basic physical plant; 2) offer service to l1.
diana_coman: rise to plan or not, at least a draft to publish there, maybe it gets some feedback to make it rise slowly?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: presently i look among the l1. (unsurprisingly no one yet hurried to buy 20u or 2kwatt).
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i do not currently have a concrete scheme for 'expand l1, l2' that would rise to the level of a plan. (and i've permanently 0 interest in servicing heathens, i.e. those not in wot at all.)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, my question is: are *you* going to actively look for that someone to put in an order for such a thing or are you just waiting for them if/when they come?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is strictly re the ~number~ of subscribers. if you were speaking of ~physical~ expansion, the plant could be doubled in size overnight if someone were to put in an order for such a thing.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the $ is fine, yes; the q is how/whether you actually plan *anything* to get new customers?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: all of the expansion plans for which i have concrete #s, rather than 'wishes', are summarized. but 1st priorities are 1) service asciilifeform 2) service l1 (such that want in) followed by 3) all other forms of expansion.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: do I understand correctly that you do not plan to actively expand that operation? ie you are doing there contingency planning for the unfortunate case that you have too many customers to fit in the current rack rather than business plan to get customers, is that it?
asciilifeform finally fixed, i think, all the typos.
asciilifeform: 2nd draft of 'costs', for those interested, posted.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Funny how that shit works out
mp_en_viaje: check it out, now that i'm leaving finally fixed this shit up lmao
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/argentina-and-uruguay-go-to-the-polls/ << Qntra -- Argentina And Uruguay Go To The Polls
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/27/annotating-british-state-broadcasters-preview-of-todays-uruguayan-election/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Annotating British State Broadcaster's Preview Of Today's Uruguayan Election
BingoBoingo: This was routinely a sub-10 minute affair in my part of old country. These people manage to form lines with half hour to several hour waits to stuff envelopes with either their chosen lists to vote or sliced deli meats to annul their vote
BingoBoingo: So, voting here consists of putting pre-printed "lists" in envelopes. No marking answers to dozens of questions, and folks are generally expected to bring their own damned lists. Motherfuckers are still standing in lines that have formed to do the voting!
asciilifeform: (among other things, full BOMs for the irons (as per mp_en_viaje's crit) are given in the article.)
asciilifeform still proofreading and correcting article, but the 2nd draft of price calculator, which includes all standard options for irons, is posted for those interested.
diana_coman: onth krankenwhatevs sounds even better to me.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-12 02:36:19 lobbes: ("blog.lobbesblog" was indeed clunky so I figured I'd take this opportunity to rebrand)
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/10/untimed/ << The Whet -- Untimed