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Luke-Jr: I'm sure he didn't mean
to settle a bet with
that
fractal: Luke-Jr: according
to punin, you are
fractal: pride is one of
the 7 deadly sins, no?
fractal: luke-jr: not much else
to say after you're wrong and have
too much pride
to admit it?
fractal: ?? looks like Luke-Jr and other are silent at
the face of facts
fractal: looks like it...
there have
to be some smart people
though... somewhere?
fractal: its mind blowing... i really
though people invovled in bitocin were overall intelligent.
fractal: can't believe
that so many people can't understand basic english,
fractal: yes. sorry. no UNIT
that performs at 400Gh
fractal: I certainly hope you'll agree
that after
the second reference
to what a UNIT is,
that bitfurystrikesback.com has no single UNIT
that performs at 365Gh
fractal: Luke-Jr:
to clarify what a unit is ... punin just issued an alert for ssh credentials on a R-pi "The user pi and root both have some ssh credentials set. You should remove
these so
that no one can access your unit." See how he says
that accessing a R-pi, gives access
to your UNIT? Only 1M-board can be plugged into a R-pi, and only 16 H-card fit on 1 M-board.
This means
that
the maxiumum performance from a UNIT is 365Gh..
fractal: Unless
there are significant failures
to deliver
Luke-Jr: I'd bet on 1mil, but
then I'd have
to find out what
the laws regulating betting are here :/
pankkake: despite having a decent weight no one dared
to vote No
kakobrekla: you can mix
the addresses and keywords for better filtering
fractal: YES. AMAZING. after all
these years of discussion,.... phew.
fractal: a UNIT is somehting
that has only 1 Rasbperry pi
fractal: We've spotted a minor (potentially major) security issue with
the image
that was distributed with
the shipped units.
The user pi and root both have some ssh credentials set. You should remove
these so
that no one can access your unit. (This should not be such big issue if you're behind NAT).
fractal: thestringpuller: actually, no,
there isn't.
thestringpuller: not at all
there is one factor in which drove it's core value
fractal: there are many factors, many subjective variables... many points
to be made. sorry.
fractal: thestringpuller: loaded question, as its not objective.
try again
though.
thestringpuller: If you honestly can't answer
that question you have already failed.
benkay_: and only most of
the
time.
thestringpuller: Good for you.
Then when you crash and burn, will
that fuel feed you as you starve?
fractal: thestringpuller: negz... Again, as I said...
the negativity and doubting drives me.
thestringpuller: even benkay_
thinks you're a n00b an he's like
the nicest guy ever
fractal: thestringpuller: not in
the US
fractal: thestringpuller: I use multiple VPN's
to connect here.
fractal: Luke-Jr:
the bet is about only bitfurystrikesback. not
the other manufacturers. please read
the bet language again
to clarify
Luke-Jr: so it's possible
the Europeans have some problems, but
the point is
the hardware is
the same
Luke-Jr: note buzzdave represents
the other manuf of
the same boards
fractal: thestringpuller: but again, i appreciate
the doubts, it helps me
to code.
fractal: thestringpuller:
thats why I'm smart. I know how
to make money with 0% fees, and you don't
Luke-Jr: most likely
they had a software issue originally
Luke-Jr: fractal: and I doubt
the hardware changed
thestringpuller: Bitbet in itself
took a very long
time
to become successful
fractal: thestringpuller:
thanks, doubters give me more of a drive
to succeed. I appreciate it.
Luke-Jr: fractal: here's more news for you: lots of
these 400 Gh/s units ARE IN FACT ONE BOARD
fractal: benkay_: should I
tell you a few days before I launch my bitbet clone so you can short BBET on MPEX?
fractal: I really
thought bitcoin had smarter people invovled in it
fractal: the main reason i'm continuing
this is because I'm completely shocked
that members of
the community don't understand
the definition of
the
term UNIT. Even Luke-Jr , I
thought he was supposed
to be considered somewhat respected, can't understand what
the
term UNIT means
fractal: err... certainly won't amount
to anything
fractal: benkay_: however, I can
tell you
that your dedication
to
this fruitless discussion , of which you don't even have a stake in, is certainly indicative of where your priorities lie,,, you likely won't amount
to anything
fractal: benkay_: actually,
thats not
the case at all
fractal: this will continue for years
to come. especially for pankkake... he loves
to hear about
this fraud
benkay_: your dedication
to
this fruitless endeavour is indicative of why you'll never amount
to anything
pankkake: "some users get pissed off with
the eventual results on occasion, but what can you do." ♥
fractal: I must make sure everyone knows
that BitBet is infact a scam/fraud/ripoff site
fractal: feel free
to put me on ignore. However,
the bet was a no.
benkay_: you have
the aribeiter
telling you how
the
thing's going
to work
fractal: if you can show me where
the logs are i'll be happy
to ctrl+f
fractal: benkay_: I'm sure
they're somewhere...
fractal: There are only a limited number of 'Boards'
that can fit in a UNIT
Luke-Jr: I already linked
the dictionary.
fractal: hopefully
that settles
that --- but back
to
the UNIT and hardware issue -- I urge you
to study what a single 'UNIT' is
fractal: Luke-Jr: ok, I will retract my statement of not being prepared
to lose as my definition of being prepared
to lose seems
to differ
to yours.
benkay_: fractal: do you have logs of
that conversation
to share?
Luke-Jr: "The parties must have
the free disposal of what
they stake, and" <--
this was also not
true, if you were not prepared
to lose
fractal: You obviously care since you've engaged yourself so
throughly in
this. Nothing had been shipped when I bet.
Luke-Jr: doesn't change
the fact you
tried
to ripoff everyone else of course, so I don't really care
Luke-Jr: fractal: if
that is indeed accurate, you may have a case
fractal: so,
that argument is also moot
fractal: Luke-Jr: actually, i checked up with MP
to make sure what
the bet
terms were before betting,
to make sure
that
the 400Gh had
to be in 1 unit.
Luke-Jr: see
the
third condition of moral betting: "Both must understand
the matter of
the bet in
the same sense, and"
Luke-Jr: fractal: *some of
them* were in here presumably
telling you *that you misunderstood
the bet
terms*
fractal: so,
that point doesn't really hold water either.
fractal: Luke-Jr: and regardless,
they didn't want
to repeal
their bets...
they were in here
telling me i'm wrong
fractal: according
to
the FAQ
thats how you can cancel your bet
fractal: sure is,
they don't lose anything
fractal: Luke-Jr: sure
they were.
They can bet on
the opposite side in
the appropriate amount so
that
the outcome neutralizes
their position
Luke-Jr: fractal:
the other parties in
this case were not given
the option
to repeal
their bet
fractal: No I'm glad Luke-Jr posted
that... as you can see on
the bitbet comments
there were many posts outlining
the 'truth' before
the bet was closed --- I hope Luke-Jr retracts his statement
that I was
trying
to rip someone off
fractal: Luke-Jr: I said
the
truth
to
the other party and
the debate was going on for days before
the bet was concluded.... I'm glad
that clause was in
there, i felt morally wrong for a second
there... phew..
fractal: Luke-Jr:
thanks for
that post -- you should refer
to "If, however, one has absolutely certain evidence of
the
truth of his contention, and says so
to
the other party, he is not precluded from betting if
the latter remains obstinate."
Luke-Jr: fractal: For a bet
to be morally justifiable,
the conclusion must be uncertain for both parties.
fractal: Luke-Jr: additionally,
theres absolutely nothing wrong with betting on public information, calling it an attempted ripoff is pure hyperbole, i expect more from you
fractal: sorry
thats incorrect.
the bet speaks
to
the units as advertised
Luke-Jr: (in
theory, I know it wouldn't be practical)
Luke-Jr: they could have shipped BFL Monarchs, and it'd have met
the bet requirements
Luke-Jr: fractal: any,
the bet didn't restrict
that aspect at all
fractal: H-boards -- yes. M-boards no. if you don't know
the difference, i'll be happy
to explain
fractal: Luke-Jr: what boards are you
talking about? M-boards or H-boards?
Luke-Jr: fractal:
the definition of "unit" allows for 2 boards