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tyrion70: the
transactions are prolly flagged as fraudulent..
Namworld: Not
the amount of
transactions which is a problem.
That's my guess.
Namworld: And
they now investigate
the whole
thing and whatever.
Namworld: No, probably because
the account owners of
those email
transfers reported it as
theft.
tyrion70: it's because if
they don't do
that
the criminals will start sending
the money
to some bum on
the street with a bank account...
gesell: Namworld: so why did
they close or put a hold on your account? because you had a lot of
transactions? I'm just wondering if for some reason i also have a lot of
transactions if
they would do
this
Namworld: Really, I
think
the issues are worse
than
the 300 yeah
tyrion70: yeah but
the whole investigation and blocked cards suck bigtime..
Namworld: Yeah... well at worse 300 which is
the only one I've been able
to deposit and released escrow.
tyrion70: apparently
that's what happening in Europe as well with sepa
transfers..
nubbins`: the email is essentially just a link
to a
transaction id
tyrion70: so basically
the senders account were prolly hacked and now u pay
the price?
nubbins`: there's also a "security question" you have
to answer, chosen by
the sender
nubbins`: you log in, and you're asked which account
the money will be deposited
to
nubbins`: it brings you
to your bank's login page
nubbins`: you click
the link in your email
tyrion70: okay, isn't
that kinda unsafe?
Namworld: It's kinda like an ATM withdrawal. It's instant deposit
to
the other account when
the user receives and deposit from his email.
tyrion70: ah.. never heard of
that interac email
thingy.. but good
to know.. and indeed sucks..
Namworld: You can send from your bank account funds
to an email address from most banks here.
Namworld: And
that only
the 6xx attempts are an issue.
Namworld: Cause
the only BTC I released from escrow is for
the 300.
Namworld: I hope
the 300 was legit. and just
the 600s I got later
that evening are ok.
gesell: Namworld: can you explain more about
that or have you somewhere else?
tyrion70: what country is
that namworld?
Namworld: Now after over a month I'm asked if I have an account at X other bank and I'm
told I have
to call
them anyway.
Namworld: My debit card has been suspended since and I keep having
to do
transaction in person with
two proof of identity with photos cause
they're investigating my account.
Namworld: I put an online sell ad for
transfer (Interac E-mail
transfer). Got one for 300 bucks, it went
through. Got another for ~600, got declined. And got like 3-4 more within minutes for also ~600 from different accounts all sent
to my email. Didn't
try
to cash
those.
Namworld: Well apparently I'll be hot water for a while. Will have
to jump hoops. If you use localbitcoins, do cash in hand
transactions only.
gesell: zuckerberg says US did a bad job of scrutinising NSA
tradeoffs on privacy...
this from
the person
that changes
their privacy policy indiscriminately and some would say is responsible for
the desensitisation of
the public
to privacy.
ozbot: Sudetenland ? Or Kwestia Polska ? pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
gesell: though i guess
ther is no share price
gesell: or is
that not
the point and rather
the focus on exchanges, not what is exchanged
gesell: i mean
the dominence of any one of
them
gesell: interesting
the dominence of one of
those solves
the problem of
the other
two,
take your pick
gesell: they fix
two problems and leave
gesell: if
the platform is asked about
their opinion on gay rights "thats not our mandate" or gun rights "not our mandate" or drug laws "not our mandate" etc
Duffer1: we should annex mexico and convert
to bitcoin
gesell: by 2015 anon community elects
two representitives
to run (did I mention Lessign and Benkler?)
gesell: so
the sooner
they are done
the sooner anon is out of power
gesell: as soon as items #1 and #2 are completed #3
takes places
gesell: 2. institute public funding for ellections
to end monopoly of money in politics
Rulother__: I'll still vote
third party, but I know it doesn't matter.
Duffer1: i hate
that excuse, and i hate
that it's probably right
Rulother__: Doesn't really matter in
the end,
the whole system is rigged
Rulother__: I'll democrate if
they pick Elizabeth Warren
Duffer1: ah, ok
that's fair, i
thought you were going
to go all kenyan muslim on me
there
Rulother__: He has
taken Bush policies
to a new level
Rulother__: I want
this president
to get impeached so bad
Rulother__: It's about
time people
truly start standing up
to
the US
gesell: bah, so i guess
that means war
mircea_popescu: Rulother__
total humiliation putin handed down
the us govt. ima write in a sec./
ozbot: Assad Lays Down His Conditions: "US Must Stop Aiding
Terrorists", Israel Disposing Of WMDs; Accuses
gesell: amazing
that we still have flashy screen savers because of it
gesell: thats an art project. recreate
the CRT burn for people
gesell: i cant
type in a console without it. get
too many 'o's and 'a's and hjkl mixed up in
the
text
thestringpuller: mutt is only if you have direct access
to your mail server :(
mircea_popescu: i used pine for a while. it's actually much better
than stuff likegmail.
gesell: i was impressed yesterday
to learn
that
the yahoo ceo uses pine for email
gesell: so you just got
to look at
the original analogy with a more religious mindset
gesell: it's okay,
the cells arent actually dead
though
gesell: he gets bigger and
the other cells keep giving
them
their shit
gesell: when a virus kills one cell it
takes on more volume. so, in effect, mircea_popescu is
tiranicle dictator
thestringpuller: .The C.E.O. has
to be
the virus,. Mr. Huang said. .To build a great company, you have
to kill it a bit every day..
mircea_popescu: gesell it depends exactly what you do with
them at
the low level but yes, by default
they do.
gesell: good mindfuck for
the uninitiated: SSD's never delete ANYTHING, even when you
think you've securely overwritten and deleted
gesell: also mircea_popescu did you buy
the cards from a shop or online. cause you know
the NSA is known
to backdoor shit at
the manufacturer on
tha
targeted bases ;)
gesell: yeah
there is
the bootloader but its only active on boot. guess you should unplug all cables when you reboot :P
gesell: though I run my exchange on andriod using
their prng with
the undocumented intel prng drive over a baseband
that is closed source. but hey, its linux!
mircea_popescu: this will happen in 2 weeks, and should be less
than half hour x2.
mircea_popescu: there is no reason
to believe anything was compromised. we just have no way
to make sure wtf is in
the chips because
the vendor is being an asshole and won't release code.
mircea_popescu: soo,
there's going
to be some paranoid
trashing of all netcards and installing new netcards on all mpex infrastructure.
Rulother__: if anyone here actually remembers
that game