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Luke-Jr: at the very least, we can setup a polling interface
ThickAsThieves: is that truly possible?
ThickAsThieves: you also mention soliciting the opinion of the "community" to decide these things
Luke-Jr: some influence may be inevitable, but we should try to do our best to separate it
Luke-Jr: I think it's more practical with a Foundation, than without one.
ThickAsThieves: you think that separation is possible?
ThickAsThieves: you mention that the FOundation should not influence software dev though
Luke-Jr: it also makes reference to protecting and promoting
Luke-Jr: "By funding the Bitcoin infrastructure, including a core development team, we can make Bitcoin more respected, trusted and useful to people worldwide."
Luke-Jr: that's just the first step
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: it's not JUST for software dev; that
ThickAsThieves: maybe to something like The Foundation's purpose is to advocate for and solicit financial support for bitcoin software development?
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I don't think it's at odds with the mission statement, though it could possibly be clarified
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: that's also part of why I think the Foundation should be open to input from people outside of it
ThickAsThieves: so you'd see the mission statement changed?
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I think it should be perfectly clear what the purpose is, not "fool" anyone
Luke-Jr: they can just give bitcoins, and the Foundation handles distributing it to developers and other Bitcoin-promotion efforts
dub: how has your position on raping children changed? because raping your own children is one thing but when you branch out to raping other children it could reflect negatively on bitcoin
Luke-Jr: no, I consider it a way for people who want to support Bitcoin, to not have to do their own research on how to best spend the money
ThickAsThieves: so you consider it to be a scheme to fool people into giving to dev of the software?
Luke-Jr: basically so people who want to support Bitcoin have a way to donate
Luke-Jr: it exists to get money from MtGox/etc to Gavin, more or less
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I want it to empower others, without telling them how to do things
ThickAsThieves: does it not exist to influence?
ThickAsThieves: so you want to join to dismantle it?
Luke-Jr: it can help Bitcoin without trying to run the show
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I want to minimise the Foundation's influence as much as possible.
ThickAsThieves: i dont have to like or agree with their plot to acknowledge it
dub: correclty inferring that the election is for a small role in a small circle jerk
ThickAsThieves: i disagree that i'm the one they'll be influencing, and disagree that they will have no influence of note
dub: I like how he refers to it as 'the foundation community'
ThickAsThieves: Joerg doesnt want Foundation to turn into a US bitcoin-business club
mircea_popescu: and they're gonna influence exactly you, for as long as you stick to that notion.
ThickAsThieves: because like it or not these guyse are gonna influence some things
mircea_popescu: why do you think this is so important, anyway ?
ThickAsThieves: Liz says Foundation needs to better manage outward infighting so they dont look like derps
ThickAsThieves: Roger Ver donated 5000btc to Foundation
ThickAsThieves: Joerg says no Luke, Trace his right
ThickAsThieves: LukeJr says no fair, Trace
ThickAsThieves: he also likes idea of a super-majority consensus to decide new featyures
pankkake: a French newspaper said bitcoins were "created by the mysterious bitcoin foundation"
mircea_popescu: or, alternatively, "so that nsa budget is relieved a little"
mircea_popescu: right, and the foundation can then ask for donations honestly, "so that ycombinator deadbeats may continue pretending like they're businessmen"
ThickAsThieves: is that what it was?
dub: did Joerg say "+1 internets to trace"?
ThickAsThieves: Luke - No, but give community a way to vote, Liz - No, but we all know gavin works at the foundation
ThickAsThieves: Should the foundation have a role in Bitcoin software dev?
pankkake: there's worse than showing bfl hardware: showing a baby
ThickAsThieves: maybe he let the neckbeard go our of control and chose to photochop his best pic on hand?
pankkake: "Crypto currency will regulate the regulators." I like this guy :p
dexX7: isn't that the berlin guy?
ThickAsThieves: he's the hard-ass of the group it seems
ThickAsThieves: not there either
mircea_popescu: check teh spam.
ThickAsThieves: i tried to make an account at btc foundation's website, it says i get a confirmation email, but never arrived
dub: yeah it loaded on second try
dub: ThickAsThieves: is there supposed to be some audio with that?
mircea_popescu: i would propose you yourself as anecdotal proof that no such bulslhit detector either exists or is available.
pankkake: even if you can have instant access to the correct information, it is drowned in a sea of misinformation, or just stupid useless content
Duffer1: also there are effectively zero socialist parties in america
dexX7: kakobrekla: well, i'm able to parse bitstamp/btct data into a format that can be imported as historical data into nt, but it would be neat if i could submit trades via ninjatrader
mircea_popescu: uh. there is no such access and no such detector.
Duffer1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Age but for purposes of my point i consider it: instant free access to a global bullshit detector
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Foundation. "We're irrelevant so you don't have to be!"
kakobrekla: dexX7 what are you trying to do
dexX7: i think the best would be to look out for other trading softwares. tbh i didn't do much research and nt is cool, but maybe not the best fit for our purposes
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mircea_popescu: Duffer1 what's an information age and what's the problem with the us having like one almost nonsocialist party ?
pankkake: even for things that don't have an API
pankkake: I'm asking this as I could provide an API bridge, if ninjatrader can deal with one standardized API
pankkake: no, expect. but accept too obviously
dexX7: the api of btct can be as good as it could be, but if they don't allow other providers than those who are partnered with, it's worth nothing
ThickAsThieves: isnt that the same thing as a shitty API?
dexX7: yeah well, and shitty proprietary trading software without an open connection for other data providers
ThickAsThieves: the issue is the exchanges having subpar API
dexX7: it's actually not that cool
Duffer1: I'm going to look into ninjatrader, coinflow just doesn't do it for me
dub: add in chemtrails and we're already in the alien narcoterrorist holocaust
dub: more water == more flouride == more acceptable host to reptilian seeding
Duffer1: i find it shocking that a movement like the tea party could even exist in the INFORMATION age
pankkake: focusing on drinking isn't bad though. people really should stop to drink their sugar-with-some-water stuff
ThickAsThieves: any suggestion of diet has ike a 90% chance of being better than the average american's current one
pankkake: sure, but the actual food recommendations i've seen are pretty stupid
ThickAsThieves: isnt that her psuedo-mission?
ThickAsThieves: basically the sentiment is 'fuck you michelle for suggesting we eat better and drink water'
mircea_popescu: KRAMER: Yeah, well I wasn't looking for a long term relationship. I was on TV.
mircea_popescu: KRAMER: Well, I'm not saying that! You know, things are going pretty well for me here. I met a girl...
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: I'd like to hear that.
mircea_popescu: that what you want me to say?
mircea_popescu: KRAMER: What do you want me to say? That the things haven't worked out the way that I planned? That I'm struggling, barely able to keep my head above water? That L.A. is a cold place even in the middle of the summer? That it's a lonely place even when your stuck in traffic at the Hollywood Freeway? That I'm no better than a screenwriter driving a cab, a starlet turning tricks, a producer in a house he can't afford? Is
mircea_popescu: o boy where's that kramer quote.
ThickAsThieves: "just cuz i'm cold, doesn't mean I want people to think I'm cold." ~obama
mircea_popescu: "oh that cock how metrosexually sweet it tastes"
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mircea_popescu: nah they'll just do it again next year.
ThickAsThieves: maybe there's still hope after all
ThickAsThieves: "Microsoft agrees its painfully unfunny iPhone parody ads were 'off the mark' "
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lol drop it on the article comment section will ya :D
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