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matuszed: is the premium demanded
matuszed: the BTC effective yield has been steadily going down with the price
matuszed: it was a 30% return at 3.0 too
nubbins`: i guess it's another low dividend this week
nubbins`: so the cut in pay wasn't a huge adjustment
nubbins`: i just used to blow all my money on restaurants and dope anyway
nubbins`: well, we don't live the same cushy lives we used to
dexX7: wow.. i didn't expect you could ditch two "real" jobs for t-shirt design/printing
nubbins`: she ended up quitting her job in retail, going to art school, now she does this for a living too
nubbins`: i taught my wife how to do all this stuff too
dexX7: it's a great thing to do what pleases you
nubbins`: gotta stay true to yourself
nubbins`: compared to 10+ back when i worked in a fabric-covered box
nubbins`: i gave up a lucrative java development job at an insurance company 7 months ago to do this
dexX7: are you doing this as hobby?
dexX7: haha that one
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: robot tetris!
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
dexX7: i like the quality
nubbins`: i'm printing some tees for a local band later today
nubbins`: oh, ha! that's right!
dexX7: otherwise i would have asked you to rate me, so i could rate you ... for the t-shirt groupbuy back in the days ;)
nubbins`: none of those people i sold coins to bothered to rate me
nubbins`: save you the time
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nubbins`: suggests i visit the branch
nubbins`: i say "what size is the $40 box", he has no idea
nubbins`: comes back, says they range from $40 to $425 per year
nubbins`: man, royal bank has some dummies on the phone today
dexX7: are there any am news?
nubbins`: check out this beauty: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/pure-gold-coin-polar-bear-mintage-600-2013-prod1690011#.UjnAUGQiFnQ
nubbins`: well who am i supposed to talk with about coins now?
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ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla, mircea_popescu - Here you can see Gox had less than 50% on 8/28 http://data.bitcoinity.org/#caaaaadgaa
ThickAsThieves: ah, was assuming that was Sell Buy etc
ThickAsThieves: but they werent called out in the bet
ThickAsThieves: bitcoinity obv has the data
ThickAsThieves: unless someone has the data to parse
kakobrekla: talk to mp if you have a complaint in regards to bet resolvment
ThickAsThieves: someone would have had to watch the daily chart all day, to verify the bet
ThickAsThieves: obv not good enough to verify
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla, I can't find any chart to verify, closest I'm aware of is here: http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=30d
ThickAsThieves: for total volume?
ThickAsThieves: is there even a historical chart for this?
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla or mircea_popescu, shouldn't this bet have resolved Yes? http://bitbet.us/bet/460/mt-gox-to-have-50-trade-volume/ There were multiple days where Gox had less than 50%.
ThickAsThieves: otherwise the shares will remain up for sale
ThickAsThieves: with all proceeds being returned to shareholders"
ThickAsThieves: "A failure to raise 9500 BTC by Saturday 30th November would constitute a failed IPVO,
ThickAsThieves: to be specific, from the NEOBEE prospectus:
ThickAsThieves: lewicki, shares will remain on the market until all are sold
imsaguy: One of the largest IPVOs really didn't exist before the IPVO
ThickAsThieves: thestringpuller, bitcoin IPVOs as funding is not new trend, it is the vast majority of offerings, no?
lewicki: tat: In the case of undersubscription what would happen to unsold shares?
ThickAsThieves: You might find life more enjoyable to not paint all things in false negative light
ThickAsThieves: for it to continue
ThickAsThieves: a trend would have to exist
ThickAsThieves: there is no tied selling here
AndChat|52500: I'll be quite happy to be dead wrong. Just expressing a concern.
thestringpuller: AndChat|52500: i think the new trend is ipos exostong before the business is operational
AndChat|52500: Until "you can't touch B unless your holding A" becomes the norm.
AndChat|52500: This time only 500K shares, if it works I'd expect to see more offerings done this way.
thestringpuller: depemds on hoe legit the business is
AndChat|52500: No I'm more interested in seeing how it plays out as I think this could be the start of a trend.
ThickAsThieves: Of course, the premise being false doesn't predicate it from happening
ThickAsThieves: and "with IPOs selling out in minutes, I don't expect anything to be left by the time the IPO starys"
ThickAsThieves: "we all see how fast these offerings can sell out."
ThickAsThieves: My point being that your premise is false
ThickAsThieves: I forget, but IceDrill maybe have been similar size, but that took days to fill, and was filled largely by post-IPO private buys
ThickAsThieves: and those buys are suspected to have been part of a marketing scheme and then refunded
ThickAsThieves: Exactly one offering of this size has existed in recent memory
AndChat|52500: Not a hard and fast rule, but we all see how fast these offerings can sell out.
ThickAsThieves: there is no requirement to buy either product in order to get the other
ThickAsThieves: Tied selling is the reverse
AndChat|52500: Just saying it sounds more like tied selling than I like. But of course we're entirely unregulated here.
ThickAsThieves: Second, just because some sell out in minutes, doesn't guarantee this one will
AndChat|52500: So with IPOs selling out in minutes, I don't expect anything to be left by the time the IPO starys
ThickAsThieves: but you certainly do not have to
ThickAsThieves: if you choose to buy it at market in order to buy during the Pre-IPVO round, so be it
ThickAsThieves: the pre-ipvo is meant to be an opportunity for XBOND holders, not a solicitation to buy XBOND at market
ThickAsThieves: being that it is made available on 3 exchanges from the start
AndChat|52500: Hope so, don't I need to buy xbond to take part in the pre-chosen sale?
ThickAsThieves: the IPVO is quite the opposite
ThickAsThieves: as no one is asking you to buy anything you don't want
ThickAsThieves: You misunderstand something then
AndChat|52500: I don't. Like the whole "buy this shit you don't want or you have no chance of buying that shit you do want"
AndChat|52500: Will be interesting to see how it plays out
thestringpuller: you the next Aethero?
Rulother: time to spend some money
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donjon: what does that [S] means?
Ukyo: mircea_popescu there? :)
mircea_popescu: which reminds me : "Production of useful work is limited by the laws of thermodynamics, but the production of useless work seems to be unlimited."
mircea_popescu: you gotta throw out large swathes of "possibilities" in order to be able to do something useful.
mod6: i guess "scientific consensus" usually prohibits its constituants to dream and imagine.
mircea_popescu: cca 1920 it was the scientific consensus that we will never have nuclear reactors.
mircea_popescu: i guess that's how far "scientific consensus" goes.